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Yikes! More Controversy! The Free Market vs Central Planning

by / Friday, 23 September 2011 / Published in Economics, Politics

What I’m going to share today starts with something posted by Brian in response to Part 3 of my Going To Hell in a Handbasket series. My response contains some important information, but is buried so deeply among hundreds of other comments that I thought I should create an entire post around it.

Here’s how it started:


I really liked the live video chat on facebook. I think it is a much better way for you to communicate information than through writing on this blog (though I still really like this blog). It’s just easier to tell what someone means when you see how they are saying something instead of just the words they are saying. Definitely do more video chats!

I have an economics question for you if you feel like taking the time. Harry Browne brings up an example in his book about the more expensive cost of using recycled paper vs. new paper. Browne explains this means that the resources consumed in recycling paper are more valuable to the market than the resources consumed in making new paper (aka trees). So basically the market should go with new paper since trees are less valuable than all the things that go into recycling paper.

What I struggle to understand is how you can judge the value of trees solely by their price in the market. Say we discovered that cutting down trees significantly affected oxygen levels that were unhealthy for people. How would the free market naturally account for this to make trees more valuable?

To me it seems regulations making trees more expensive would be the only way, yet I know this undermines the whole concept of the free market.

Sorry for the long question, but I had to ask it because this has been burning on my mind, as I’m really interested in understanding the libertarian viewpoint.

FROM BILL: First of all, you are assuming that what the green people say is true, that trees are disappearing. This is far from true. I don’t have the stats right in front of me, but (and this is a result of the market, too, as a matter of fact) timber companies plant more trees than they cut, and have for a long time. It’s in their interest to do so. The only place this isn’t true is in the Amazon, where socialists and other central planners are in control. This is the real reason why the trees in the Amazon are disappearing.

It was BEFORE capitalism (or, as I said, in places where resources are controlled by central planners) that people—including tribal people like the Mayans, Aztecs, etc., but also including Europeans, Asians, etc—would cut down all the trees in a certain place for one reason or another, until they were all gone, and then move on to another spot and do it again. Modern people in a capitalist society have a vested interest in maintaining and husbanding resources, and they do. So, first of all, we are not running out of trees. Not by a longshot.

The question about how the value of something is determined is an important one. Here is the answer: people determine the value of each commodity, service, item, or whatever, by their willingness to part with resources to have it. When you have resources of some kind, and you want something else, you do what everyone else does: you decide if you want to hang onto your current resources (which is often money, but could be other things, or even time) or trade it for something else. In other words, what is the item in question worth to you? How much of your resources are you willing to part with to have it?

If you don’t think something is valuable enough to trade resources for, it must not be that valuable–to you. Billions of collective decisions about what is valuable, and how valuable, determine the value of items–at least in a market economy. In a command economy, with central planning, someone else decides for you what you should want, and how much you should want it and therefore pay for it (whether in money, other resources, time, or something else).

This is highly inefficient and a huge waste to a society. And, it’s one of the reasons why command economies are seen as lacking in freedom–you have less freedom of choice in such a society. It’s also why the Soviet Union was famous for long lines of consumers waiting to get a little bit of toilet paper, meat, shoes, or whatever. In a command economy, shortages and rationing are common.

Not only is it impossible for central planners to forecast what or how much people want in the efficient way this is accomplished in a market economy, there is no way for shortages to cause prices to rise, which causes entrepreneurs to say to themselves, “Ah, I should make more of this,” or for surpluses to cause the same entrepreneurs to produce less. In this way the prices and amount of goods fluctuates around an equilibrium point, and whenever it is out of balance natural forces bring it back into balance.

In the example Harry Browne gives, he is right (I’ve seen the studies). For most things, more resources are used to recycle than are saved by the recycling (not in all situations, though–in a few cases recycling saves resources). Plus, as I said above, trees are a sustainable and renewable resource, and timber companies are quite successfully increasing the number of trees, despite what the Al Gore’s of the world say. It would be stupid of them not to.

Only in a centralized economy, where central planners try to call the shots, would a society end up using more resources than necessary. In a market economy, where each individual is making his or her own decisions based on the best way to allocate their own scarce resources (including money), the collective decisions of all the people sort these sorts of things out in the best way. Though some people make bad decisions and waste things, overall people are smart enough to make the right decisions–or to learn from their mistakes when they make bad ones.

Central planners, though, do not have the same immediate feedback that you have about your own situation. They are flying blind, so to speak—or, they have a political agenda, or are acting at the behest of some special interest group. In other words, they are corrupt. Central planning is legendary for producing the conditions for corruption—another huge waste to society.

Central planners make decisions based on what they think you should want (or, based on some corrupt agenda they have). They are not particularly concerned with what you really value.

The government takes a lot of money from you in taxes (unless you’re one of the 47%—in the US, at least—who pays no taxes). How often does the government spend the money they take from you on what you actually want or what you would spend it on if you still had it? It would probably be a complete accident if they spent any of it on what you would buy with it. Multiply this spending on what you would never buy, or what is your 525th choice of what to buy, by millions of people and you have huge allocations of resources to things that people don’t want.

This is incredibly wasteful to a society, and to the degree this happens, people suffer. In the socialist societies where this happens the most—China, Russia, Venezuela, North Korea, etc—the suffering is obvious. Look at what is happening in Greece right now as another example of central planning gone wild. Or, for that matter, most of Euope.

What’s more, you have a strong vested interest in using your resources wisely. Central planners are allocating someone else’s resources. They don’t care about them the way you do. That’s why there is such a huge (HUGE) amount of waste in government.

The value of an item is determined by the person who is deciding whether or not to trade resources for it. The more he values the item, the more he will give up to have it. What other possible method of valuing things would work well? Should the subjective view of some OTHER person (one who often has a personal—and corrupt—interest in the matter) determine whether you should pay a certain amount for something?

Finally, you say that trees becoming more expensive undermines the free market. Not so. Trees would be more expensive if people wanted them (including the products made from them) more, less expensive if people valued them less. In such a case their value would be bid up. And, seeing this, timber companies would be motivated to plant even more of them. This is exactly how a market economy allocates resources.

Those who want something more, or need it more than others, are willing to pay more for it if or when it become scarce (which motivates someone to create more of it). Those who don’t want to pay more, or can’t pay more, shift to using other products, materials, etc. In the case of trees, those who can’t afford them might use bricks, perhaps, or something else.

When something becomes more scarce, its price goes up, and entrepreneurs are motivated to create more of it. If too much is created, prices go down and entrepreneurs are motivated to stop creating so much of it. This is a pretty slick system (and totally natural and needing no regulation to work)—a system that results in prices reaching a level in every case that works best–certainly better than any central planner could create.

When central planners screw with prices–as they did, for instance, with oil price caps in the 1970s–it creates artificial shortages (the motivation to create more because the price goes up is gone). This created gas rationing in the 1970s, with people lining up around the block to buy gas, and only being able to by on alternating days. As soon as they removed the price fixing, the problem disappeared. This is the same mechanism that caused the lines in the Soviet Union.


Thanks for that response Bill, that helps a lot. I wasn’t saying I think cutting down trees is depleting our oxygen, I was just saying it hypothetically. If such a thing was proved to be true (even though it certainly isn’t), then would the price of trees go up in a free market? I don’t understand how it would since in a free market price is determined solely by supply and demand. Yet it would be in society’s best interest for it to go up, right? In such a case it seems there is a disconnect between the price of something and its true value. That’s what I don’t get, but I have a feeling I’m missing something…

FROM BILL: But value isn’t some intrinsic thing. It’s determined by the person who is exchanging resources for the item. You’re assuming that if trees do X, that’s a sign of value. It might be, and it might not be. It depends on who’s buying.

Consider this. When I was growing up, the air and water were filthy. Now they aren’t (despite what Al Gore says)–except in socialist countries, ironically, where central planning is king. This happened because people discovered that the air was dirty, didn’t like it, and began to patronize those who didn’t make it dirtier. The government tried to make it look like they made everything cleaner, but they really didn’t.

If you think the air is cleaner because of the government (and that the market couldn’t possible keep it clean), you are mistaken. The government may have rules about these things, but they don’t/can’t enforce them, except with a few people (anymore than they can keep people from smoking pot, or keep burglars from breaking into houses). They don’t have enough regulators to do it. The same is true with food laws, financial laws, and so forth.

And, the whole government regulations thing is crooked, anyway. If someone who is their buddy violates the laws, they put on a big show of doing something, but ultimately give them pass. The air is mostly clean, the food is mostly disease free, the restaurants are mostly clean, and the workplaces are mostly safe because people demand it, and because it’s in the best interest of the owners of the companies, and the market complies.

Yes, there are some companies that stupidly don’t maintain a safe workplace, or who pollute, or who don’t maintain food safety, or whatever. The market weeds these people out eventually. Yes, they are a problem while they exist. You can see, though, that they exist despite all the government regulations. The regulations do not solve this problem.

There is no way, however, to make everything perfect. It is impossible. Since the government wants power (over you), anything that goes wrong is an excuse to add more laws and regulations. It’s like the TSA. Does it make it safer to fly because they scan everyone and do these invasive pat-downs? I don’t think so. It just makes a lot of people THINK it’s safer. People get through the screening with weapons all the time—often just to show it can be done.

I suppose if no one knew that trees create oxygen (and enough of them were disappearing that it really was a problem, which isn’t even REMOTELY close to being true) it might be possible that the trees could disappear and we’d all die. But if people knew that it was happening, and didn’t like it (ie, they valued the trees), the market (not the government, which doesn’t have the horsepower to do it anyway) would make it stop. In fact, though, the government is telling us that there is too much CO2, most of which is made by trees!


Why does regulation make everything worse? (food, air ,water ,workplace etc) I can see how regulations are a waste and how they are ineffective but I dont see why they make everything worst than it was before.(I mean the specific thing that is regulated).


FROM BILL: a) Regulations don’t solve the problem they are supposed to solve; b) they cause many unintended consequences, many of which are wasteful, harmful, and expensive, c) they increase the cost of everything because they require a huge government bureaucracy and because business owners must spend a lot of money to comply with regulations; d) they reduce the choices of consumers; and e) they reduce the overall level of freedom in a society.

I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any laws about these sorts of things. However, the idea that government regulations, of any kind, have ever solved the problem they were designed to solve, is just not true. So you have a non-solution, with many serious and negative side-effects. Probably 98% of businesses act in a responsible way because it’s in their interest to do so. The 2% that aren’t responsible would still be irresponsible with or without the regulations.

Yes, it should be against the law to pour sewage in the river. However, the regulations around such things DO NOT prevent the few who would do this from doing it, and they have many negative consequences.


“I don’t have the stats right in front of me, but (and this is a result of the market, too, as a matter of fact) there are many times more trees in the world today than ever before.”

Of all the rocking horse manure you’ve spouted so far, this takes the prize! You of all people know that statistics can be doctored to prove anything. If it wasn’t so irresponsible to be telling gullible people who look up to you nonsense like this it would be laughable.

No doubt I am inviting one of the characteristic vitriolic replies that you seem to enjoy targeting your critics with but I couldn’t care less. Your credibility rating has finally bottomed out as far as I am concerned.

FROM BILL: Why, then, do you keep hanging around, if I’m spewing so much manure and I have no credibility? Perhaps you are a masochist, and you just love to hear all my lies and misinformation? Were you anticipating as vitriolic a response as, for instance, my characterizing what you’ve said as “rocking horse manure?” Or would that be over the line so far as “vitriolic” is concerned? At least your posts are characterized by civility and the avoidance of vitriol. Thank goodness!

As a matter of fact, the number of trees in the world IS much higher than it was several decades ago. The one exception is probably the Amazonian rain forest, which is unfortunately under the control of South American socialists who don’t care about the environment. Tell me–if you owned a forestry company, would you just cut down all the trees, or would you make sure you were planting enough to keep your industry in business?

If anyone is falsifying statistics it is the green types. They’ve now been caught with their pants down lying about climate change, just as they were caught lying about the number of homeless people a few years ago, the number of poor people, and anything else that would help their “let’s put the government in change of everything in your life” cause. I’m sure you can go to any number of progressive-run websites and find all kinds of statistics that we’re down to our last 17 trees.


Re: Number of trees

I found one of the largest, recent studies on this topic from the Sunday Times of London. Link below. The bottom line is that the number of trees is increasing in all industrialized countries but falling in the Amazon area, just like Bill said. The net number of trees, including the Amazon, fell 2.5% from 1990-2006.

Two points. The study was done in 2006 and this is 2011. The net number of trees including the Amazon has likely gone up by 2010 by extrapolating the data. China has planted massive numbers of trees over the last decade which was not fully on-line for this study.

I could not find another more recent study of this depth and scale. But even using this 2006 study, the US tree population has increased from 1990-2006, contrary to the deforestation theories.

It’s ok to use a lot of trees as long as you plant as much or more. The key is to study tree “density” using satellite photos rather than tree “acreage”. Tree acreage has decreased due to efficiencies while tree density has increased. Tree density = tree count. Tree acreage = propaganda count.

Personally, I do not waste resources, I recycle, use efficient light bulbs, bought a residence close enough to allow me to walk to work (using zero gallons of gas during the week, except for date nights), etc. But even though I might appear on board with the green crowd, and I am in some ways, I want the truth. I want reality. And when I’m lied to or, let’s just say, mislead enough, as with the global warming cadre, they have zero credibility in my eyes. I try to live my life ethically. But based on reality—at least, as near as I can determine it.

FROM BILL: What bothers me is that I was able to find many websites giving supposed data showing that we’re down to our last two trees, etc. Very offical looking, etc. I’ve seen enough Green propoganda, however, to spot this sort of thing. Thanks for finding the London Times survey. Gloria? Are you out there? Oh, wait. You aren’t looking for the facts. Never mind.


FINAL NOTE ABOUT SOCIAL MOOD: It’s been more than seven months since I first posted information about social mood turning negative and described many of the things that were likely to happen as a result. I invite you to review what I said and notice that it’s all happening. Please review Part 3 and prepare for the future. We are entering a long period where what was spent (on credit) must be repaid. This repayment will either be by the borrower or by the lender but, either way, it will happen.

This is called deleveraging. It is also called deflation. It means that the whole world will live at a lower standard of living for quite some time.

In my opinion, Holosync will be a life-saver during this time. Holosync raises your threshold for stress, making you more resilient, and the coming years, I suspect, are going to be quite stressful. Holosync is cheap mental health and well-being insurance. Use your Holosync!

Until next time, be well.




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238 Responses to “Yikes! More Controversy! The Free Market vs Central Planning”

  1. Janean says :

    Very interesting Bill!
    I just know from my “neck of the woods”, as soon as the trees are cut and cleared, the land is prepared and re-planted. It looks like an atomic bomb went off, for only a short time but once the new trees are started, in a few years they have grown and filled in the area again. The timber companys could’nt continue if they didn’t replant. It’s too bad the other area’s of the world didn’t do more.
    Maybe in some area’s, (in the U.S.) people see so much tearing down and building of sub-divisions, they wonder/worry about the loss of trees?
    I guess in this time of preparedness, we should all plant at least one tree in our yard and then we can beat the “statistics”. After all, how many Centerpointe followers are there?? LOL
    Have a great day!

  2. Portia Berrey says :

    I am delightedly shocked with Bill Harris’s responses. I figured that being from Oregon and admiring Ken Wilbur would make Bill a leftist. I have always known climate change hysteria was a hoax and that command economies and government regulations resulted in misery and corruption. THANK YOU Bill for your excellent and clear explanations.

  3. Lynda says :

    One the the best children’s books of all time is E.B. White’s ‘Charlotte’s Web.’ In it, Charlotte the Spider weaves ‘terrific,’ ‘some pig’ and ‘radiant’ into her web to describe her friend, Wilbur the pig. All the humans believe Wilbur is a super pig because of her web. The point being, don’t believe everything you see in print. I have become increasingly skeptical about what I see in print or on the Web–every news outlet has an axe to grind.
    However, when I do see something that seems counter-intuitive, such as the London Time’s article about more trees, I do believe it. One hundred years ago, my state (Ohio) was 75% family farms. The family farms are long gone. What has replaced them? Suburbia, and that means ornamental trees, shrubs, and flowers beds. The state has also bought farm land and turned it into park land.
    Bill is right–the free market has determined that gardening is a value-added item that enhances a property’s worth. Granted, Ohio’s virgin forests are gone, but a different greenery has replaced them.

    FROM BILL: I don’t think the London Times story was counting home landscaping in their figures, dear.

  4. Ken says :


    Yes, pretty much everything you’ve predicted has come to pass. Not looking forward to the roving bands of thugs, but we’ve already seen some of that with the UK riots this summer.

    I’m honored one of my posts made the highlight reel. Is that kind of like making the centerpointe all star team?

    Can I also add that readers should remember that issues like these are really not liberal vs. conservative in nature. I know it might feel that way. Or that a long held belief is being challenged or disrespected by the other side, them, the enemy. But that’s really not the case. This is about being able to see reality through the fog of spin created by those in power who want to control us. All of us.

    If you are unable to see past a hard-wired belief based on past assumptions that Bill has challenged, that’s ok. Just keep reading and listening to your HS. Eventually, everything will start making sense to you.

    FROM BILL: Hey, I’m just trying to say that every person should have the freedom to shape his or her own life, and that having some central planner shape it is not only wrong (and, quite frankly, tyrannical) but IT DOESN’T WORK. It doesn’t make things better. The biggest lie out there is that when there is a problem the best idea for solving it is bring in the government. The second biggest lie is that if only we’d put the central planners in charge of everything that they can make all problems go away. Life is one problem after another (have you noticed?). The quality of your life is determined by how you navigate through those problems while being grateful for the rest.

  5. There are basically two kinds of people. Those who help others when asked, but who mostly mind their own business.

    And then there are those who can’t help but stick their noses into other peoples’ business, tell them how to live, what to eat, how to speak, what to read, what to think, etc. It’s these busybodies who thrive on the power of the state, and those who like to use that power to advance their own personal agendas.

    End of editorial.

    Rich Martin

  6. So when a big movie actor is approached to make a movie-instead of simply accepting the $15 MILLION offered, which most of us WOULD get out of bed for, the BIG MOVIE STAR negotiates a PERCENTAGE of the PROPHETS based on they’re OWN BELIEF in they’re OWN SELF-WORTH and SELF-INTEREST and THAT very same PSYCHOLOGY can be APPLIED to ALL AREAS of LIFE?

    Based on this SIMPLE psychology LONG-TERM thinkers in the REPULICAN Party would opt to ELECT RICK PERRY, whilst SHORT-TERM thinkers and FLOATING voters will opt to ELECT MITT ROMNEY (So Romney is most likely to be the man who takes most votes) and MEANWHILE LIBERTARIANS suchas YOURSELF BILL will be IGNORING ALL NEWS and SOLEY INVESTING in your OWN ABILITIES to WRITE, CREATE and PROSPER in your OWN WORLD VIEW?

    I’m still reading WHY THE WEST RULES FOR NOW and have moved into PART II, he does speak a great deal in part I about the spread of Humans around the globe from The SOUTH AMERICAN INCAS IN PERU to the comparable RATIO’s between say GREAT BRITAIN and an OBSCURE area in CHINA, NORTH AMERICA has very little mention at all which would surely upset AMERICANS spoon fed on lifelong diets of how we rule the WORLD.

    In regard to CHATTER about trees I’m sure SOMEONE POINTED out that differing varieties were being replanted to the ORIGINAL INDIGINOUS populations, I’m sure as always you will fire BULLET POINTS through any arguments an EMBOLDENED INDIVIDUAL like I CAN MAKE but take for example the HISTORY of the HUMBLE BEECH TREE which can be found on WIKI, NORTH AMERICAN VARIETIES are PLAGUED with BEECH BARK DISEASE whilst our EUROPEAN VARIETIES are less SO, that doesn’t mean that EUROPEAN varieties have greater value because the disease is unlikely to CAUSE DISRUPTION in your local US MARKETS, IT reminds me of BSE in cattle in the UK a few years back when the WHOLE WORLD pretty much banned the SHIPPING of our livestock and EVEN BLOCKADED PORTS, SCALABILITY OF LOCAL TOPICS TO GLOBAL TOPICS IS STILL THE BIG ISSUE and translating transporting IDEAS OUT OF FEARS seems to COLOUR my ability to make JUDGEMENTS with or without awareness -my inability to act and my visual appearance may have been chosen by myself through LACK OF SELF-WORTH but getting to £££ $$$ in MY POCKET WALLET OR PURSE rather than simply SPIRITUALLY is I’m sure the ACTUAL PATH that WE WOULD ALL LIKE. SIT AND WAIT or PLAN AND FAIL (BASED ON HISTORY) MY PAIN IN SPAIN SAYS THERES NOT ENOUGH RAIN.

  7. Paul Cowan says :

    I bought gold and silver after reading the previous 3.5 posts. I was just about to buy Swiss Francs until the swiss government inexplicably pegged the Swiss Franc to the Euro and started the money presses to inflate their economy. The yen took a similar track.

    Last weeks fall in Gold last week smells of government intervention also. I live in the UK were more QE is on its way and they are now talking about a multi-trillion euro banker bailout fund along the lines of the USA TARP fund as Greece, Ireland and Portugal will default at some stage. The only way to pay for such a multi-million euro bailout would be to start the printing presses on a large scale.

    What chance do we have when the collective powers that are hell bent on creating more virtual cash or worse getting the IMF involved to wager more debt?

    I have some cash from a property sale that is pending and the last thing I want to do with the cash is let it lie in a 0% interest rate bank account when the bank might might fold. Are there any safe havens left?

    The end of fiat currencies seems the only logical answer. If a government can print money then it most certainly will. They don’t seem to have any course of action.

    FROM BILL: This is a normal (and needed) correction in gold. It was anticipated by all the smart analysis I follow. It’s not the first one I’ve ridden out.

    There is NOTHING wrong with holding assets in a non-interest-bearing account. Forget about what you can make from your money. Your goal should be to KEEP your money. If you make something on it (as I did with owning Swiss Francs–which I sold when the Swiss government made its move), so much the better. The name of the game is to keep your assets. Looking for returns often puts your assets at risk in this environment.

    Hold your gold, and wait to do something with your other assets. I would suggest a Treasury only fund, such as Capital Preservation Fund (this is in US dollars, which are going UP in value right now). None of this should be construed as investment advice. Do your own homework and make your own decisions.

  8. Robert Smith says :

    I am among those totally shocked by your social / political analysis. “Free market” economics means: the world’s richest 400 people have more wealth than the 3 billion folks on the bottom who survive on two dollars or less a day. Statistics can be twisted by any agile mind to “prove” whatever he / she wants to prove. You effectively convince yourself that you are right! But “social justice” still means more to me — and to the tens of thousands of kids who will starve to death today — than your ability to profit from the “free market”. From here on out, I’ll choose my “stress” over contributing to your success… and I’ll keep fighting for both the kids and the trees…

    FROM BILL: Robert, you are sadly and woefully uniformed. The central planning (ie, social justice) agenda has caused more suffering for more kids than I can describe. Right now you have multinational corporations in league with big government. Not a free market, but certainly a disaster. The bigger the goverment, the worse things have become, whether it’s education, poverty, energy availability, inflation, and many other problems. The very problems you are concerned about are made worse by what you term social justice. I suspect that you are well-intentioned in what you advocate, but unfortunately uniformed about the consequenses, which are harming working people, the poor, and many others.

    Any success I have is soley because I provide something that helps people, and they voluntarily trade their money for it. They are happier as a result, and I am able to earn a living and employ a number a people. I have made my success by genuinely doing everything I can to help others. I have also given several million dollars to charities that help kids over the last several years (along with a number of other people you would probably see as “the enemy”, but who, like me, use their success to help those in need). What have you done to help the world and the people in it who are suffering–besides being angry and blaming the successful?

  9. Santiago says :

    I was going to suggest that you write an article un libertarianism, but I guess that’s kind of what you did with this post. Here’s an great example of how the free market and the price system work to make a pencil, by MIlton Friedman.

    Thanks for all this great amount of information you’ve giving us through this blog, I’ve been following it for years now ….. wow, years ….. it seemed like yesterday that I was reading the posts on human development. I guess if more people really understood that the best way to succeed (or make profits) in life is by helping others, the world would be a much better place. I know I’ve benefited immensely from you teachings. So I’m honestly grateful.

    BTW I still think you’re too arrogant

    FROM BILL: So arrogance is one of your shadows? Is that what you’re trying to say? I thought so.

    Believe me, the world’s successful people know that helping others is the road to success. It’s those who hate the successful who need to figure this out.

  10. jeff westcott says :

    just wanted to let you know Bill that Holosync is having a wonderful, magical and even mysterious effect on me!! I look forward with great anticipation to my daily hour, because I know that after, new insights, greater peace and even, dare I say, a certainty of knowing the secret/secrets of the universe may/will??? be revealed to me,..thanks again Bill,…jeff,…toronto

  11. stephen schneider says :

    rWhile it is true that in the USA the paper manufacturers plant all the trees they need for harvest and have doen so now for many years, your statements about so called “socialist” countries are so far off the mark as to be laughable and simply reveal your own prejudice. First of all, the Amazon is located in Brazil which is in no way a socialist country and right now their economy is much healthier than ours in the USA. Their forests are disappearing not because of socialism, but because of the greed and short sightedness of the oil interests, and large agribusiness, that get more economic value from the land for other uses than they can from leaving it forested. This is an example of market forces making our planet worse (less healthy) and your analysis here is way off base. As for socialists getting it wrong – sometimes they do and sometimes they do not. The Russians certainly got it wrong. The Fins and Swedes are examples of those that have gotten it right (far better than in the USA). Finland in particular has the most advanced paper making technology in the world and also the cleanest in terms of impact of the environment and is very profitable. You need to expand your research instead of spewing libertarian rhetoric without analysis.

    FROM BILL: You should check your facts before you open your mouth, lest you look stupid to others. Brazil IS a socialist/fascist country, where business and the government are in partnership to screw the common people. And, their economy is not in good shape. I spend many hours a day studying such things. You probably read an article in the New York Times. Brazil’s “president” is a former Marxist guerilla. And, the “oil interests” have nothing to do with logging the Amazon

  12. sherry says :

    Dear Bill and followers

    Have you watched Money Masters?…….very enlightening……explains why we are where we are in the world today…very long to watch……I think it is worth the effort and this information should be spread around the world…..


  13. Ed Caldwell says :

    Perhaps I’m not as bright as many of these folks who arguing politics on a blog about personal develpoment, but help me understand, what’s the point I missed? I don’t patronize Holosync to read about Bill Harris’ political and economic views.

    Can we get back to the focus here?

    FROM BILL: Reading this blog isn’t a requirement. If you don’t enjoy it or find it thought-provoking, I won’t be offended if you don’t read it. I write about whatever I want to write about. Right now, as the world enters one of the most terrible times of the last 700 years, where there is going to be terrible suffering and conflict, I happen to think it’s a good idea to understand what’s going on so you can be prepared, both to protect yourself and to help others. I believe that alleviating the suffering of others is the highest spiritual calling. You’re going to have plenty of opportunities to be spiritual in the coming years. Get ready.

  14. Jason says :

    This blanket judgement that ALL government regulation and enforcement doesn’t work for the greater good is simply dogma. In addition, to declare any and all past regulation and enforcement an abject failure and corrupt is also rather simplistic. What the economic righties like you fail to recognize is that there have been times in the history of the US when business and the middle class have thrived with the proper balance of regulation and free market principles. It is the gradual corruption and dismantling of that regulation which have degraded the quality of life for all but the most wealthy Americans. Income inequality is closing in on an all time high.

    Commerce REQUIRES a stable public infrastructure to thrive consistently over the long term. You need the roads, the fire departments, the law enforcement, and the educators. You also need public entities to ensure the public safety in terms of water, air, food, drugs, and safety. Without that people will suffer and die in much greater numbers. It’s the reason why these entities were created in the first place.

    There is no entity that can better act as a mediator between sociopathic greed and the greater good than a solid democratic government (or a benevolent dictatorship). Just look at the overwhelming resistance by corporate interests to public campaign financing and the recent ruling of Citizens United. Democracy itself is under constant siege from big money business interests. We go through endless cycles of economic conservatism and progressivism every 50-100 years.

    The bottom line questions is: What kind of society do we want to live in? One where it’s a free for all and people get squashed come what may? Or do we want to ensure stability and more success for all over the long term? To say that businesses will be willing to act in the best interests of the public because it’s good for business (your 98%) doesn’t account for the massive and permanent damage caused by the remaining bad apples (your remaining 2%). You’re willing to let that damage happen and I’m not. That’s where regulation and enforcement come in. To protect us all right now in real time, not after it’s too late. The idea that we should be sway to the inherent delay of the equalization of market forces is a cruel proposition.

    Again, look at the people who are actually tearing down sound regulation and functional enforcement in the name of more profit. Do these people really need more money? Or is the greater good more important? Oh but that’s lost on you, because you believe all regulation is bad.

    FROM BILL: Those resistant corporate interests are actually allied with the government. The bigger it gets, the more opporessive it gets, and the less freedom you have. I never said there should be NO laws or regulations. There should, however, be about 5% as much regulation as there is now. Do you really think that the governement is benevolent? Really? I’d love a few examples.

  15. David says :


    Not sure why, but I’m surprised I didn’t see any mention of the real elephant in the china shop: The Fed – you know, the so-called Federal Reserve Banking System. I support a full audit of The Fed, which, if there is really total transparency, will reveal shocking information to the American (and other) people, which would hopefully lead to “killing the [private central] bank”. If you haven’t already done so, I suggest you thoroughly research the history of this corrupt money-making cartel. An excellent book on the subject is “The Creature from Jekyll Island”.

    And thanks for addressing all that you have in this blog.


    FROM BILL: The Fed? All they’ve done is debase our money so that what once cost three cents now costs $1.50. Yes, they are a key part of the BIG corporation/givenment cartel that has screwed things up royally. I will predict that the Fed will be totally discredited during the coming years.

  16. David says :

    Bill, your comments are spot on! Keep telling it like it is. You are doing a service to those who detest your comments. Those who follow the stock markets are seeing the decline and preparing. Please encourage everyone to pay off their debts and become as self reliant. The family unit is going to be very important. So make peace with your family, you will need them and they will need you. You will prosper in this era and you may realize that you are only rich when you have more than you need.

  17. Larry says :

    Hey Bill. Here in Canada we have a more heavily regulated financial industry. We avoided the bank/Wall Street/foreclosure meltdown as a result. We have universal health care (a centralized system federally and provincially) and while it has its problems, no one has to fork over their life savings if they have a heart attack or need a transplant, etc. These are just two examples that appear to challenge your theories on regulation and centralized systems. On global warming being a hoax, I invite you to take your ice-fishing shack to our Arctic to enjoy a day of… oops, sorry, the ice is mostly gone. You may have to settle for a meal of seal heart. …I’ve heard it said in the U.S. that Canada is a socialist country (we’re not; we’re a parliamentary democracy), but according to what you say about socialist countries, we should be lining up for scraps every day and useing our furniture for heating fuel. We don’t. We have a higher standard of living than the U.S. and one the highest in the world. None of your opinions on regulation, centralized systems and global warming seem to hold water is what I’m saying. You’d be well served to better educate yourself on these matters before making blanket statements. You’d see then that it’s possible to make wise regulatory decisions, manage centralized systems responsibly and yes, revisit your anti-global warming stance as we watch polar bears starve to death because there’s not enough ice pack for them to hunt on.

    FROM BILL: I don’t remember saying that Canada was a socialist country! Did I? My god, I must be losing my memory.

    No one in the US has to fork over their life saving if they have a heart attack, either. In fact, many people from Canada come to the US for treatment if they have a serious medical problem, since they don’t have to wait forever for treatment here. You’ve been reading too much leftist propoganda about health care.

    Canada, by the way, is in slightly better shape financially because they did not engage in highly risky, highly leveraged financial dealings to the degree that the US and Europe have. Still, mark my words, there will be a depression in Canada in the coming years, just as there will be in the rest of the world.

    Also, I didn’t say it wasn’t getting warmer. Humans, however, are not the reason. Natural forces are. Deal with it.

    FInally, there are more polar bears today than there were 20 years ago.

  18. Sarah says :

    Why are we so caught up on numbers of trees? Tree farms are NOT forests. Mono-culture replantings of Douglas Fir do not replace the mixed-age, mixed-species, diverse ecology that precedeed it. The seedlings planted are tailored to the needs of timber companies. They are shallow-rooted and fast growing. Extensive root systems that would be valuable to over-all health in a forest ecology are not valuable as timber. The trees planted are not genetically equivalent to the ones preceding them.

    Whether a person views this as a good or bad thing is not my interest. Simply, they are not the same and do not produce the same outputs or benefits.

    Also, a word on government regulations in general. While I disagree with some government imposed regulations, (such as building codes for private dwellings) there are others I am grateful for.

    As a mechanic in the nuclear industry, I am confronted with a volume of safety regulations, procedures, and paperwork that borders on comical.
    It makes the most simple tasks lengthy and expensive. But this is what keeps me and my co-workers and the surrounding community safe.

    The environment at coal plants and papermills is vey different, and there is very little to protect workers.

    In a hurting economy people cannot afford to say no to decent paying jobs. Without the barrage of federal regulations it would be easy to pay workers a few more dollars, speed production. Even with more injuries and fatalities it would be more profitable.

    When did this blog become so different in tone? Did I miss something?

    FROM BILL: Do you mean to tell me that if the government didn’t tell your co-workers to do safe things, you would all kill yourselves out of stupidity? You’ve got to be kidding me.

  19. Rich says :

    I just want to say to anyone who’s familiar with Ken Wilber and/or his books that Ken and Bill disagree majorly on a lot of stuff and they are in no way representative of each other.

    FROM BILL: So there!

  20. John Griggs says :

    So then the same can be said for Global Warming. It’s a massive hoax by a majority of scientists around the world. It’s all nonsense, and Bill can show me the right articles by the right people that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Global Warming does not exist at all. And if we were to find out that there really is such a thing as Global warming, certainly the 7 billion people on this planet are in no way to be held responsible…unless they are a Socialist, Communist, Liberal! These evil Socialists who are in charge of everything and have screwed everything up. Turns out that everything I know, everything I’ve read, everything I’ve ever studied is wrong and a result of the great Socialistic Bamboozling. Thank you Bill for setting me straight. Thank goodness you walk your talk when you say that things are not liberal or conservative in nature.

    FROM BILL: Now, now. Don’t be so sarcastic. People will think you have an anger problem. Also, nice try at misrepresenting what I am saying.

  21. Jason says :

    And another thing: Your notion of free market vs. central planning is flawed. You imply that central planning must involve direct intervention into the market in the form of price controls. It doesn’t have to. The point of sound regulation is to put the incentives and protections in place AND LEAVE THEM ALONE to get the desired effect. This does not have to involve market manipulation to protect the consumer. It is more about sound policy that allows the market and economy to work in the best interests of the many. It’s not about total control.

    I repeat: In the US we have had very sound policy in the past. But in the last 30 years or so the sociopathic drive of corporations and wealthy individuals to extract more wealth out of the economy at the expense of the labor force and sustainability of the environment has been nothing short of monumentally criminal. The Glass Steagal act was repealed and allowed banks to speculate leading to the banking crisis happening now. The Telecommunications Act allowed different kinds of media companies to combine into oligarchical empires thereby controlling more of what news people see. Corporate personhood and corporate lobbying displace the voice of the people in the role of government. Privatization of electronic voting systems allows corporate infiltration and corruption of elections. Health insurance companies are the only ones exempt from Sherman Anti-Trust regulation. At which point do the free marketers begin to realize that all these protections were removed in the name of “free markets” but as a result they have damaged the economy and helped ruin many lives. And what of market competition? These decisions have choked off competition, not encouraged it!!

    You demonize the government because it’s corrupt yet you offer no solution to fix it. You just declare government the problem without paying attention to who actually controls it. Shouldn’t the people control it? Wasn’t that the point of our Jeffersonian democracy when we revolted against the British? We the people for the people and by the people?

    I submit to all libertarians and economic anarchists that in a free market, the sociopaths will quickly seize the power and tyrannize the rest of us. They will not act in in the rational way your Randian doctrine assumes by catering to the needs of their consumers for the good of business. Even Alan Greenspan admitted he was wrong about that. They will rape and pillage because they have no empathy and they are never satisfied. These are the people that need to be marginalized in a sane, democratic society. I fear the worst because their voice is far louder now than ever. They are pounding at the gates of our freedom and safety.

    The “economic royalists” are back!

    FROM BILL: Sorry, I can’t get myself to wade through this drivel. I will say, though, having read your first sentence, that I never said that central planning HAD TO involve price controls.

    Sociopaths, huh? You are a hoot.

  22. Michael says :

    Thanks for your lesson in 11th grade economics, Bill….well, not really, because if you’d passed 11th grade economics you’d realize that your commentary on the market establishing the value of trees is severely flawed.

    I’m disappointed that your followers therefore take your flawed commentary and conclude that therefore global warming doesn’t exist.

    Unfortunately your economics is weak and your science is exponentially weaker, but your followers will probably “believe what they read” because you say what they want to hear.

    FROM BILL: I’ll bet you 10,000 board-feet of lumber that I have much greater scientific education than you do, and am also much better read regarding economics and global warming than you are (in fact, better read on all sides of both issues).

    I notice that you included zero facts in your post, just name calling. This doesn’t even rise to the level of an 11th grade debater. It is, though, the signature of an uninformed leftist.

  23. Jason says :

    It saddens me that I wade through your drivel and try to appeal to your sense of rationality while you shut out my argument because it threatens your dogma. I find that many libertarians treat me this way while I always listen to their arguments. Most libertarians don’t pay attention to the economic and legislative history of the US and objectively take note of what worked and what didn’t for the majority of Americans. All that matters to them is the invisible hand moving everything back to equilibrium.

    Sociopath is the right word for it. Lack of empathy for others. Unbridled greed at the expense of others. You cannot ever get rid of it. The purpose of democracy is to marginalize those who would otherwise abuse their power in the name of accumulating more wealth. People have a right to be wealthy. They shouldn’t have the right to impact my freedom, safety, and health just so they can keep making more money.

    Bill, put simply you do not listen to reason. You do not research the historical references I cite. You live in dogma. You declare 95% regulation as bad. How do you quantify such a thing? What would you remove and what would you leave in?

    It doesn’t matter anyway. I’ve never gotten a libertarian to answer my questions. Too threatening to the dogma.

    FROM BILL: I notice, as with most lefties, you cite no facts and make no actual arguments. You instead just call names, and mind-read my intentions, which of course are sinister and, as you tell it, proof of a dangerous mental illness. Intellectual laziness of the first water. Please go away. You contribute nothing (other than entertainment value, and showing others who read this blog up-close examples of how the left cannot present a factual or rational argument).

  24. Murray says :

    Hi Bill,

    Surely there is a need for some regulation – Law and Order for example? I know laws do not stop all the illegal behaviour, eg stealing, killing etc. But it seems to me that it greatly reduces it. Economies work much more efficiently with money – yes? How would there be money if there was no government and no central control of it, e.g. the logistics of printing, standards, denominations.

    I do agree that there is way too much regulation (here in Australia), but I still see the need for some.

    By the way I am post-grad trained in forest science and have spent a couple of decades mapping forests. I can safely say that all along the east coast of Australia and inland for a few hundred kilometres (thats the extent of my detailed knowledge) there is more forest ( including native forest) now than there was 50 years ago. While doing mapping from aerial photos (for the government incidentally) in the 90’s we had a women come in who was looking to prove how much forest had been lost over the last couple of decades, for her daughters high school assignment. Well we got out the old aerial photos from the 50’s and just about everywhere we looked there was more forest now than the was then ….. In fact years ago (eg 1900 – 1940) here in NSW, government regulators would visit landholders to make sure they were clearing the land of forest. If not, then their lease could be taken from them and given to someone else. A lot of this land was cleared for no other reason, but then itvgrew back to native forest, which is where a lot of the increase came from. Now the government is coming back and prosecuting people for clearing even a few regrowth trees. The old-timers just shake their heads.

    A lot of the best conservation farming started happening without government input. And now most of the government conservation dollar goes to funding huge bureaucracies.

    Can you pls provide some links to information sources that argue that climate change is not being strongly influenced by human CO2 emmissions.



    FROM BILL: Sitting here in my office I don’t have access to sources about global warming, but I gave some in response to another questions posted after my previous article (Part 3 of Going to Hell in a Handbasket). Richard Martin, another poster, then added a few other sources (Richard is very tapped in and well-read, and you can rely on his recommendations). These are toward the end of the 500+ posts. Perhaps you can search for Richard Martin (or global warming) in that post and find it.

    As for needing law and order and some regulation, I believe I said that, yes, of course we need SOME. The role of the government is to a) guarantee the sanctity of contracts, so you know if you make an agreement with someone that they can’t fail to keep it just because they are more powerful than you, b) to keep civil order, and c) to provide for the common defense against external enemies.

    Keeping civil order includes making sure that you can keep the fruits of your own labor, preventing someone stronger than you from taking it away from you. Unfortunately, at the top of the list of the “strong” in this society is the government, and it is they who do most of the taking. The Roman poet Juvenal once said, “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” This is roughly translated as “Who guards the guards?”–in other words, if they whom we rely on to keep us safe and protect us begin to hurt us, what then?

    At any rate, of course we need laws and some regulations. However, the number of regulations has reach the level of, well, even the word ridiculous isn’t strong enough. “Crushing,” “extravagantly expensive,” and “tyrannical,” come to mind.

    According to the Heritage Foundation: “The regulatory burden on Americans has continued to increase during the first half of FY 2011, with $5.8 billion in new annual costs and $6.5 billion in one-time implementation costs. Overall, 75 new major regulations costing over $38 billion annually have been imposed by regulators from the beginning of the Obama Administration to mid-FY 2011. More regulations are on the way, with the number of major rules in the pipeline doubling in the past five years. In total, according to the Government Accountability Office, 1,827 rulemaking proceedings were completed during the first six months of FY 2011 (between October 1, 2010, and March 31, 2011). Of these, 37 were classified as “significant/substantive” or “major,” meaning they each had an expected economic impact of at least $100 million per year.”

    Did you catch the part where the amount of regulation has DOUBLED in the last 5 years? It was already astronomically high. You can read the full report at:

    Also see:

    I was looking for a source that listed the number of PAGES of new regulations produced each year, as when I heard what it was several months ago I was appalled. However, I failed to find it with a quick google search and don’t have the time to hunt for it.

    The point is that certainly part of the role of government is to protect your property and your rights. What is going on, though, is far beyond anything remotely in that ball park. Check out those two links. It will open your eyes.

  25. Daniel B says :

    You have to admit that it must suck to realize everything you have studied and absorbed was destructive propaganda. To realize that you were not encouraged to develop your reason and rational faculty and therefore have nothing behind your arguments but blind character attacks. Now its at a point that if you did develop these faculties you could no longer hold that worldview and you might then feel your education was a complete waste (Which it would not be) That must suck.
    Its funny Listening to the president of Iran speaking, now there is a purely irrational man using semi plausible arguments as he goes. I guess at least he does not try to hide it.

  26. John Griggs says :

    In one of my prior posts on this topic I asked you to express your views on what you see as governments role in our country. I found myself in almost total agreement with your response. What riles me up about you is how you delete, distort, and generalize all your research to support your map of reality which makes Liberals like me out to be the bad guy here. If you would simply quit clinging to your map you might find that what you want is the same thing that most everyone wants, a government free of corruption that works for its people and not its corporations. Instead you place yourself on a pedestal by declaring that I am less informed than you, that I am the drinker of poison, that I am the living example of the current social mood even when in another post I told you I simply will not choose sides because to do so is what is creating the current social mood you are describing; which is more power for the corrupt through seperation. Your response; I have to choose a side…In the world of Glen Beck Corpratism there has to be a bad guy to hate, make the President into Chairman Mao and you can blame it all on him. You label me a socialist and communist sympathizer first rather than find a common ground with me (Which there is plenty of!) so you can support your Map of our current social mood. Why not be proactive and find some common ground here? Is it that to see me as your well informed equal would be a threat to your ego, your survival, your map? Your the teacher of the course, you know that you cannot prove your reality any more than I can prove mine-so if you want to be the change then put yourself in my shoes and thus reorganize your map to be much more flexable and resilliant than your current one. But if you want to be the result you are predicting here, then blog on that I am a fool, a drinker of poison, and misinformed. Because you are right Bill, I am angry at you for the way you are approaching this by demeaning and discrediting those of us on this blog who are not in agreement with you. It’s not that I can never be set straight its that I am your equal and I do not need your approval.

    FROM BILL: I don’t think you are the bad guy. You might be the misinformed guy, at least regarding what solutions have or will work, but I agree that you quite likely want the same things I want. The rulers, however, the elites, or whatever you want to call them, want to be IN CHARGE and to make decisions for you and for me. I don’t want them to do that. The whole idea of this country was to limit the ability of the government to do that so that people would have the maximum freedom of choice and action. Central planning short-circuits that. I am against it. I just happen to think that the progressive approach not only doesn’t result in the ends you and I both want, it in fact stifles them. It takes us in the OTHER direction.

    And, I am not looking for a bad guy, per se. I look around and I see suffering. Much suffering is unavoidale in the human situation, as I have extensively explained in quite a number of past posts, so I won’t go into it here. Then there is the suffering imposed on people by those in power. That IS avoidable, at least theoretically (there will always be people in power, and they will always abuse that power, but it can be mitigated, which is what the US Constitution was a pretty darned successful attempt at doing, at least for a while).

    I see my role in life, when I chunk up high enough, as alleviating suffering, as much as possible, when I see it. There is, of course, more suffering than anyone can ever alleviate. However, that isn’t the issue. For those I can help, it means everything. This is why my business is about helping people, it’s why I have helped and mentored quite a few people individually, and it’s why I give a large percentage of what I make to charities that help kids and serve on some boards of these organizations.

    Where I part company with liberals is that they believe (often with the same good heart you have) that the solution to problems in society is more government. I see the problems you are concerned about as mostly the RESULT of government.

    The big corporations and banks are in league with the government. They could not become so big without buddying up with the government. Yes, what they are doing is pure theft and corruption. Reduce the size of government and they wouldn’t be able to do what they do. In fact, in the recent financial meltdown, most of them would have failed without the government bailing them out (with your money).

    However, all the rest of the small and medium sized companies are painted with the same brush as these mega-corporations. These companies are not screwing people. They are making their money by offering a product or service voluntarily purchased by people who want it and think it is worth the cost. Yet they are demonized right along with the mega-companies who are in league with the big politicians.

    When I slam someone on this blog it is always because they have come on here and posted name calling but NO FACTS or rational arguments. This sort of thing is the refuge of the intellectually lazy. And, if I say that you, or someone else, is uninformed, you certain could do your best to refute what I am saying by offering data, facts, real arguments. Few do, and if you look back over my posts and my answers to the posts of others, when someone comes here with actual arguments I do engage with them. (I will say though that I don’t have unlimited time to give fully researched answers to everything someone posts here–I would never get anything else done. Sometimes if what someone is saying is knuckleheaded enough I have to just dismiss it because I don’t have the time to unwind every specious argument I see here.)

    So I don’t see you as evil. I don’t particularly remember whatever posts you’ve made in the past, or what I said in response. If you offered platitudes and opinions with no facts, I may have pointed that out, and I may have done so with a bit of rapier wit (or with a sledgehammer). If you called me names, I may have not been Gandi is my reply. However, I can see that your heart is in the right place, and that you do want good for others.

    We just disagree (possibly–I don’t claim to remember your exact point of view) on what works to get there. I also am not looking to be part of an us vs them sort of thing, BUT when I see someone (ie, the government, big corporations, etc) controlling people, stealing from them, and causing them to suffer, I want to do something to stop it, or at least some of it, if possible.

    In your post you have made a lot of assumptions (quite virulent and negative) about what you think I believe and what my motives are. This is uncalled for. You don’t know what my motives are, and it’s really quite bad form to attribute the darkest of motives to me. And, untrue.

  27. Bill, I am shocked and disappointed. I trusted you to be a balanced, sane person able to appreciate the “middle way” in life, and advise your audience to keep open minds and balanced perspectives. It’s now clear to me that, if you ever had an appreciation of both sides of any issue, that you have lost that, and that saddens me.

    Trust restaurants to police their own kitchens? Trust boards of directors, driven by one and only one motive: profit, to watch out for the interest of the people? To not pollute? Total central control over an economy: sure, it doesn’t work, I get that. Total profit-driven, greed-feeding, unregulated capitalism? Sorry, that is dangerous and wrong-headed as well. A balance of the two? The Buddhist Middle Way? That’s the right way to live, both for civilizations and for individuals.

    Since you’re spouting hard core libertarian rubbish, I can simply no longer trust the invisible mind-altering content of your Centerpointe products. I have destroyed my copies of your DVDs.

    A former customer.

    FROM BILL: First of all, deciding whether or not to use a product that helps you based on the opinions of the person who owns the company is a nice way to sabotage yourself from getting what you want or need.

    You accuse me of not being balanced because I’m saying something you don’t agree with? Really. Why don’t you offer some facts or proof that I’m wrong instead of throwing a fit, and saying that you’re taking your ball and going home? Wouldn’t that be a more mature response? Why don’t you offer some proof that without crushing regulations businesses would screw their customer and foul the planet? (By the way, I didn’t say that there should be no laws against screwing people, etc.)

    Now, as to your assumption that business people will just run wild and hurt everyone if the regulators don’t stop them, only a person who has never had a business would say that.

    Why would someone who has a restaurant, for instance, want their food to be unsafe, or their kitchen to be filthy? Wouldn’t that destroy their business? Only an idiot would run a restaurant that way. I have worked at restaurants. You would be amazed at how much cleaning and attention to food safety there is. And, in all the time I worked at a resaurant, I never once saw an inspector. I suppose they stop by once in a while, but believe me, it’s not often enough that it has anything to do with the owner wanting the restaurant to be clean and the food to be safe. The desire to serve customers is the motive for keeping the food safe and the kitchen clean.

    This idea that businesspeople are just looking to screw people is a progressive myth. Those few who are stupid enough to not go overboard to serve their customers go out of business. You think profits come from greed and taking advantage of the customer. As I said, only someone who has never run a business would say that. Profits, my friend, come from making sure your customers receive the benefits they want at a price that is fair.

    I don’t even think of profits. I just do everything I can to give as much value and service as possible to Centerpointe customers. They see this, and because they see it, Centerpointe has been wildly successful. And, I know scores of other successeul business owners. They think the same way I do. Only in progressive propoganda are business people greedly and evil.

  28. Ganesh says :

    Hi Bill, what do you think about the war in Iraq and Afganistan? or going to war at all? We both agree that we need the military to defend our respective countries, but what was the use of offensively going to Iraq and Afganistan?

    FROM BILL: Well, I’m skeptical. I don’t know for sure if there is something going on that makes it important to fight these wars or not. Perhaps there is a worry that Pakistan, which has many nuclear weapons, will use them unless the US has a presence near them to keep them from doing bad things. Some people make a good argument that we shouldn’t be involved in all this. As I said, I don’t have enough inside information to really know what the variables are in these situations. Overall, I tend to think the US doesn’t need to have troops stationed in 50 countries, or whatever it is, and that many countries we’re “protecting” should protect themselves. Again, I don’t know enough to have a really informed opinion–and neither do 99% of the people who have an opinion. (Notice that when I don’t know, I say so.)

  29. sherry says :

    Firstly, I am not an American but a Canadian and a concerned citizen……

    I again will ask has anyone watched the Money Masters?

    Here is a quote that sums up the history of the documentary…The Federal Reserve is not controlled by any government….they are the corrupt money changers of old and have just changed their names over the years…..They are part of the cartel that controls the world and dictates prices, mortgages and pays for both sides of the war……We need to wake up as citizens and globally protest…….

    “Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928). Reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time.
    Support the Monetary Reform Act – write your Congressman today!

    FROM BILL: Yes, technically they are not part of the government. They are, however, allied with it quite closely, and the same people who run the Fed go in and out of government positions.

  30. Dennis says :

    I love the Indiana Jones line ” Archeology is the search for facts. If it’s truth you’re looking for, the philosophy department is down the hall.” History has shown, in the russia, china, cuba, etc. the socialist economic model has failed wherever tried. That’s the facts.

    Margret Thatcher once said “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money” That’s the reality Europe is dealing with at the moment.

    I see that the re-release of “The Lion King” has topped the box office for the last two weeks. Anyone remember the first spoken words in that movie; after the circle of life song??

    FROM BILL: I don’t know. Was it, “Who shall we kill for dinner?”

  31. Michael says :


    You accused me of name calling and proceeded to call me names.

    Please show me where, in my previous post…. as it is my only post…. I called anybody names.

    You make great assertions as to your greater education in economics and science than mine, yet you have no idea of my education, and my science education is irrelevant to your arguments about global warming, let alone about economics as it relates to forests.

    As this is your blog, you have the last say to any poster, and the right to moderate their posts and ban them if you see the “need” and all I see is your bullying of posters who don’t agree with you.

    One simple example of business “screwing” its customers is Microsoft, who, even with regulation, exploits its monopoly, despite the anti-trust regulations in place. Yes, it probably has powerful friends in government, but wouldn’t have had those friends without being a big business in the first place, largely as a result of its monopoly.

    FROM BILL: Well, you said that my economic was so faulty that with it I couldn’t have passed 11th grade economics. If you think I presented a flaw regarding economics, why not point it out and show me where I am wrong? Instead, you imply that what I’m saying about economics is “high-schoolish” and that I wouldn’t even have passed a high school course. That isn’t name calling? It certainly isn’t the presentation of facts about your point of view, or even close to a refutation of mine.

    The only thing I can see in what I said to you that MIGHT be construed as a “name” is that I characterized you as an uninformed leftist. Did I fail to give enough information to back that up? I guess I was lumping you with all the other angry leftists who post their opinions without facts or think that calling me names is a refutation of what I have said, since they are a) leftists (proudly), and b) uninformed (I can only assume that if they were informed–if you were informed–the opinions would be accompanied by facts, or at least by some sort of logical argument. But no, just ad hominem attacks).

    As for Microsoft, you’re assuming that it actually is a monopoly. Yes, that’s what some people say. Just because government regulators say so doesn’t mean that it is. As a matter of fact, at a certain stage of every business cycle a major company has been accused of being a monopoly and “punished” by the government. It happened to Standard Oil, RCA, AT&T, and Microsoft. But what constitutes a monopoly? Are you sure Microsoft fits the bill? None of the others listed above did, because in every case, with anything the government did, other companies eventually and successfully competed with them, and took control the market they once dominated. This is how things work. For a while one company dominates because they innovated something and got to market first. Then, eventually, someone else overtakes them.

    If Microsoft is a monopoly, why is Apple more popular? How does Apple compete with them if they are a monopoly? Why are there several other choices of operating systems? In fact, they aren’t a monopoly, and never were. To be a monopoly you would not have other choices and would have to use their products if you wanted software or an operating system. But that isn’t true.

    By the way, do you use Microsoft products? I do, and I can’t remember ever a) being forced to use them, b) thinking that they were my only choice, or c) every having actually paid anything to use them (maybe I did, indirectly, if they were included with a computer I bought–no one forced me to buy that computer, though).

    So how is Microsoft screwing me? Personally, I think a lot of their software is less user-friendly than Apple products and overall I don’t care that much for their stuff, but they certainly aren’t screwing me. I don’t have to use their products if I don’t like them, and you don’t either. If they were a monopoly I would have no other choice, but clearly I do have other choices. How are they “screwing” you? They offer a product that you can either use or not, and you have many other choices. Where is the screwing happening?

    Monopolies actually can only exist with the mandate of the government, as with cable companies, water companies, power companies, etc. Do you notice that you have no choice as to what power company to use? Or what cable company? That is, unless you want to try to generate your own power, or buy bottled water, or use a satellite dish instead of cable, or somehow come up with some sort of complex solution for one of these. All of these are government mandated, and as a result of that mandate, there is NO competition, and no choice.

    In my answer to a recent post I listed some links to information regarding the problem of government regulations. The second link was a lengthy article regarding the benefits (which are huge) of deregulation. Go read it. Educate yourself. When a certain industry is highly regulated it becomes at least a NEAR-monopoly. When it is deregulated, the monopoly is broken and the benefits begin to flow.

    Finally, I’m not bullying anyone. I am, though, insisting that you present facts, not opinions without facts, and that you don’t just resort to angry or sarcastic ad hominem attacks when you don’t like what I have said (such as your crack about high school economics), which are the refuge of the intellectually lazy. You didn’t offer one fact or piece of information to define what you think is faulty about my economic analysis. As a matter of fact, many highly respected economists, including some who have won Nobel Prizes, agree with my analysis–and I suspect that they passed high school economics.

  32. Dennis says :

    Re: Iraq and Afghanistan The best source for geopolitics I’ve found is They are sometimes referred to as the ‘shadow CIA.’ Well worth the subscription.

    The first spoken line in the Lion King is “life’s not fair.” I’m surprised the liberals have never boycotted the movie over that un-PC concept…lol

    Thanks for your commentary Bill. Keep shining your light into the darkness.

    FROM BILL: Probably because they think if they were in control they could make it fair–if by fair you mean equally miserable.

    I subscribe to Stratfor, as a matter of fact. I still don’t have enough info, though, to know for sure what to think about all the wars. My tendency is to not be in favor of them, but I reserve final judgement since I don’t have enough information.

  33. joel says :

    “life’s not fare is it!”

  34. nancy says :

    Hi Bill,

    How is it, I wonder, that you are reminding me of the gay man you focus on in The Secret? He was so negative. All those bad things really happened to him until you helped him to see his part in it. Was your part in the movie totally distorted, or do you still believe that a person’s negative outlook will have an effect on his life?

    I mention this because I love your product, and am ever grateful for the ways in which it has helped me, but I am not finding that your blog is a good representation of your product. What ever happened to being able to handle more stress? You sound totally stressed and angry.

    I propose that you take a one month vacation from your news sources. See what happens to your stress levels and your world view. What is the point of being stressed and upset in advance of the apocalypse you anticipate? What if it doesn’t come for 2 years? 4 years? 10 years? All those years would have been spent in distress for no reason.

    Please, take your own advice and find a way to a more positive outlook. As you suggest, be resourceful.

    Thank you as always for your great product.

    FROM BILL: But I’m not stressed. I’m just being realistic. The world IS entering a time of negative social mood. In such times human beings do some horrible things to each other. I’m suggesting you prepare, not that you be stressed. If you don’t prepare, you’re really going to be stressed later. This isn’t a time for magical thinking, where you think that your thoughts make the world act in a certain way. The world is acting in a way completely independent of my thoughts. YOU are the one, apparently, who sees being realistic about the situation as “negative.” As I’ve said before, if a bus was bearing down on you, would you think positve thoughts (that it really wasn’t happening), or would you get out of the way.

    I am, however, a bit frustrated with people who have been brainwashed into thinking that centralized control of everything, more government, more debt, more regulations, etc., is going to help people. In fact, it is causing tremendous suffering. And, as I have said, my mission is to help as many people who are suffering as I possibly can. If you saw someone hurting others, would you just think positive thoughts and take a vacation from noticing it, or would you try to do something about it?

  35. Jimmy says :

    “Awareness in and of itself is transformative” Thank you for sharing your map with us Bill and thank you for holosync.

  36. Paul Cowan says :

    I think the main thing that everyone should take on board is that YOU need to do YOUR own research and draw YOUR own conclusions. Rather than get angry or rubbish the suggestion why not come at this from an educated view point. This research should include other avenues than the main stream media who are mainly not reporting this but I do see some signs that this is changing.

    I am writing this as somebody who initially did none of the above but when I did MY research, I found a lot of evidence to suggest that the debt party is well and truly over and we are heading into a dark time. I am now taking steps to try and protect what assets I have. I am grateful to Bill for alerting us to this danger. In the UK we have a benefit society were people just expect the government to help them out. I seen a talk show recently about inner city housing and all the audience would say is “the government should do this” or “the government should do that”. I honestly fear for these people. They are in for a hell of an awakening.

    FROM BILL: What I think is particularly sad is that governments all over the world over the last few decades have gradually made a quite large minority of people (in the US it’s about 47-48%) dependent on the government. In the US these people pay NO taxes whatsoever and receive varying amounts of support from the government. The usual complaint (which I agree with) is that those who are more productive are paying the way for those who aren’t.

    A few of these people actually do need help and are unable to care for themselves (though I question the idea that the best way to care for them is through the government, which screws up, increases the cost of, and increases the corruption around, everything it touches). Most are not in that category, however. If governmen assistance was withdrawn they would be forced to do something to take care of themselves.

    The sad thing, though, to get back to my point, is that we have a huge number of people who have no practice or experience at being self reliant, or of contributing anything to society. This happened in the Soviet Union and when communism fell (temporarily–it’s back now in other clothing), there was complete chaos because no living person in the Soviet Union had ever lived in a system when he or she had to live without the government taking care of them in various ways.

    The day is approaching (it’s already here in Greece and a few other places) where the government will no longer be able to support these people, since the tax money is drying up as jobs dry up and the economy stagnates (as I predicted it would). What will these people do? Though I am against the system that put them in this situation, and certainly some of them are happy to be living off the government, they are going to suffer greatly. No support, no skills, no knowledge of how to take care of themselves. These people will likely become violent in many cases and will be prey to demagogues. This is what happened in Germany in the 1920s and 1930s.

  37. Margaret says :

    Must admit still nervous about posting on this blog for fear of sounding stupid but would like to raise a couple of points. Government has an infrastructure in the UK its called the Civil Service and its growing larger as government itself grows larger. Civil servants are non elected long term career driven people who watch elected governments come and go and top civil servants wield enormous power within ministries. This is true in all large western “democracies”. Big government equals less democracy by its very nature. Central planning strips the individual of their individual freedom and in the end simply becomes a means within itself. Like a demi god that thinks we are too stupid to know what is best for ourselves it hands down commandments it demands we follow. The sad part is we comply because we think government knows best. This has nothing to do with being left or right wing but a lot to do with individual freedom.
    On another point massive changes in climate have been happening since time began, thats the very nature of the planet we live on. It was a mini ice age in Europe that made us loose our tropical coloring some thousand of years ago and Europe has been warming since that point. Check out the bradshaw foundation web site for that info.
    Bill just keep doing what you are doing waking people up to what really is

    FROM BILL: No need to fear sounding stupid. Your post was clear and articulate. I completely agree.

  38. This is a long post, but I need to vent.

    I am a consultant. Consequently, I run a business. Many of my clients are businesses or entrepreneurs. The thing that struck me the most about entrepreneurs and business owners when I started my business five years ago was how generous most of them are. As a consultant, I can attest to the fact that most business owners are not “obsessed with profit.” In fact, quite the contrary: they have to be constantly reminded that they need to be more profitable, because profit is what drives their growth, allowing them to invest in new products and services, hire workers, market their wares, etc. If innovation and free enterprise are the engine of the economy, profit is the fuel, because that is what makes the innovation and free enterprise possible.

    I’ve also come to the conclusion that most (all?) business owners are not driven solely or even principally by profit. The reason is simple. When you start out in business, you think you’re going to make a killing and that the money is going to be rolling in. Then you hit the wall. People aren’t falling over themselves to buy your wonderful product or service. Why? Because they like what they’ve already got. They haven’t heard of your product. They don’t know who you are. They don’t trust you. You have to work hard to earn that trust, to make them take note of you and your product, to want to give you money in return for it. It’s all voluntary, and you’re the one who has to work hard, not the customer. Then you run out of money. You start borrowing to stay in business, or to pay the groceries. You have to decide: take a vacation or invest in a new production system; hire a new employee or pay for your kid’s college tuition. Your significant other supports you unconditionally (or not), but still… There are limits. Then you have a breakthrough and the money starts rolling in. You pay off your debts, you buy something nice. If you’re lucky and you can continue managing your business properly, learning along the way, and the money keeps rolling in. You start to be profitable. Then you want to grow some more. You need to invest in R&D or expand production. That takes money. Guess what? The cycle starts over again. Along the way, you have to contend with disgruntled or unproductive employees, competition, government regulation, etc. etc. And you ask yourself: Am I doing this for profit?

    Yes, there are some business owners and entrepreneurs who are wildly successful. Everyone sees the “instant success,” but they don’t see the years of hard work, the worry, and the sacrifices that have gone into building the business. Yes, there are the Facebooks and the Googles, but for every one of those, there are ten thousand failed ideas and enterprises, some of which attracted huge venture capital investments (remember MySpace?) that are now worthless. That’s why the VC investors require so much payback, because it’s highly risky.

    As for government regulation, I’ve seen the effects of that too, both in trying to run my business, and in working with clients. For example, at the invitation of a colleague, I helped to facilitate a consultative meeting by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and the food industry. The agency wanted to get the opinions of “industry” so they can improve their service. The key point from industry reps present was that the government should just get out of the way. The government employees had their hearts in the right place, but they didn’t even know their own regulations. Some of these had been written in the 1920s and 1930s! There are still regulations about the size of boxes for shipping apples between provinces. Why? To protect apple growers in one province from growers in another, or in the U.S. Guess what? The apples still come into their market because that’s what consumers want: quality and choice. What happens though, is that prices are higher because the producers have to maintain different packaging, or unpack and repack, or whatever else, including maintaining the ability to be inspected at any time by government inspectors, who really don’t know what they’re doing, because they aren’t specialists in any case. Loblaws, the largest grocery chain in Canada had their corporate head of produce supply there at the meeting. She said Loblaws spends hundreds of millions each year to certify their suppliers, and to inspect and ensure freshness, hygiene and overall safety of produce, so that people don’t get sick or die from contaminated products. It can literally mean life or death for customers, and for the company. They have biochemists and agronomists on staff to ensure that food safety is the number one priority. They don’t need the government to do that.

    Three years ago, Maple Leaf Foods sold a batch of prepared meats with listeria poisoning. About 20 people died. That also cost the company over $1 billion in lost revenue, damages, and lost production, not to mention the fact that they took all of their production facilities apart and went through them with a fine-tooth comb. They didn’t need a government inspector or regulations to tell them to do that. I could go on, but this is just one example of how government regulation doesn’t help, and just adds costs to the producers which are either passed on to consumers in higher prices or in lower margins for companies, who then have less money to reinvest and improve their businesses.

    End of rant.

    Richard Martin

    FROM BILL: Thanks for the insightful information.

    Since a few of you who love big government and progressive ideas think I’m the devil, an evil capitalist, a heartless rich person, etc., I just want to remind you that when I started Centerpointe in 1989, it was in my home, and I was making NOTHING at first, and living on very little. Total sales the first year were $12,000, $48,000 the second year. When I hired my first employee, she was making about $25,000 a year. I was making…nothing. And, I sat in front of the TV every night while I stuffed product into bubble pak envelopes, sealed them, added postage, and addressed them by hand. Then I drove to the post office and stood in line the next day to mail them. It wasn’t until the fourth year that I was able to pay myself anything at all.

    And, as Richard described above, having a business is one problem after another, after another, after another. At one point I remember realizing that it was always going to be that way, and to stop being so frustrated by it.

    I’m not saying this so you’ll feel sorry for me–or think “What a success story.” As Richard described above, nearly all small business owners who eventually succeed go through something similar. We pay the price for success many times over. Some pay it and don’t succeed.

    Then, I have to listen to Obama and others like him (and some of you) tell me that I don’t contribute enough, despite the fact that I believe I’ve paid about $35 million in taxes over the last 20+ years and have given several million more to charities helping kids who without help wouldn’t have a chance. For my two favorite charities (please help them), go to (Self Enhancement, Inc) or (St. Mary’s Home for Boys).

    I’ve also noticed what Richard pointed out: contrary to progressive class warfare talking points, most business owners I know (and I know a lot of them, especially since I travel in philanthropic circles which are pretty much ALL business owners) aren’t rubbing their hands in glee over profits, profits, profits. They are focused on how to better serve their customers (and, after they reach a certain level of success, how to serve society at large by helping those who can’t help themselves).

    I certainly am happy that Centerpointe, after the first seven or eight years, began to make a lot of money. It has allowed me to live a comfortable life and to do a few good things in the world. However, I didn’t start Centerpointe with the goal of making a lot of money (I never thought it would make much more than $30,000 a year), and I haven’t been thinking about profits very much at all. I just happen to love Holosync and what it does for people, and felt like I just had to tell people about it.

    So those of you who are not successful and who hate those who are, get off your high horse. I used to be such a person, when I was younger. Now that I’ve run a business, and now that I personally know many other business owners, I see that nearly all of them are generous, hard-working, and compassionate. And, now, beset by progressives who want to destroy them. What a world. And the negative social mood I have predicted is just getting started.

  39. sherry says :

    The Money Masters explains the history behind the current world depression and the bankers’ goal of world economic control by a very small coterie of private bankers, above all governments.
    The Central bankers’ Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in 1988 in the “Basel I” regulations imposed an 8% capital reserve standard on member central banks. This almost immediately threw Japan into a 15 year economic depression. In 2004 Basel II imposed “mark to the market” capital valuation standards that required international banks to revalue their reserves according to changing market valuations (such as falling home or stock prices). The US implemented those standards in November, 2007. In December 2007 the US stock market collapsed and credit began drying up as banks withheld loans to comply with the 8% capital requirement as collateral valuations began to drop. The snowball effect of tightening credit, which reduces economic activity and values further, which resulted in further tightening of credit, etc., has produced a worldwide depression which is worsening.

    Those capital standards have not been relaxed despite the crushing effects on the world economy* the credit contraction it requires has caused. Why? Because:

    Bruce Wiseman
    “The purpose of this financial crisis is to take down the U.S. dollar as the stable datum of planetary finance and, in the midst of the resulting confusion, put in its place a Global Monetary Authority [GMA – run directly by international bankers freed of any government control] -a planetary financial control organization”- Bruce Wiseman

    *The U.S did modify these rules somewhat a year after the devastation had taken place here, but the rules are still fully in place in the rest of the world and the results are appalling.

    “The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole… Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world’s money…” .- Prof. Carroll Quigley renowned, late Georgetown macro-historian (mentioned by former President Clinton in his first nomination acceptance speech), author of Tragedy and Hope. “He [Carroll Quigley] was one of the last great macro-historians who traced the development of civilization…with an awesome capability.” – Dr. Peter F. Krogh, Dean of the School of Foreign Service (Georgetown)

    The Two Step Plan to
    National Economic Reform and Recovery
    1. Directs the Treasury Department to issue U.S. Notes (like Lincoln’s Greenbacks; can also be in electronic deposit format) to pay off the National debt.
    2. Increases the reserve ratio private banks are required to maintain from 10% to 100%, thereby terminating their ability to create money, while simultaneously absorbing the funds created to retire the national debt.

    These two relatively simple steps, which Congress has the power to enact, would extinguish the national debt, without inflation or deflation, and end the unjust practice of private banks creating money as loans (i.e., fractional reserve banking). Paying off the national debt would wipe out the $400+ billion annual interest payments and thereby balance the budget. This Act would stabilize the economy and end the boom-bust economic cycles caused by fractional reserve banking.
    For the full text of the Act click here to read the MONETARY REFORM ACT.

    FROM BILL: Congress cannot just create money out of thin air to pay off the debt. They might try to do this, but it won’t solve the problem. There is no free lunch. Those receiving this “money” will not be getting value for the money they lent. Money created by fiat destroys a financial system. It cannot save one.

    We have just come out of the biggest boom in positive social mood in the history of the world. During such times nothing seems risky, so those who are in charge of the money (banks and governments) take huge risks and spend money that has not been earned yet. When this credit money must finally be paid back, either a) it is paid back, which means the borrower must live on less which he or she is paying it back, or b) the borrower can’t pay it back, which means the lender must live on less.

    Accounting tricks, which is what the first part of the two step plan you cite really is, will not solve this reality. The entire world is going into a time when everyone’s standard of living will go down, and it is going to last for a long time.

  40. sherry says :

    The above quote was taken from the Money Masters and now this is all I will say on the forum…….the problem is far reaching and we are headed for tough times……much tougher than the 30’s if we don’t wake up to the realization that the powers that be need to decimate populations, create more wars etc….what better way than to divide and conquer….people fighting one another…..rooting and pillaging out of fear and starvation…..yes, we are in a very negative cycle and it will only get worse as Bill is saying……
    Thanks kindly….

  41. Richard Carnes says :

    “FROM BILL: What I think is particularly sad is that governments all over the world over the last few decades have gradually made a quite large minority of people (in the US it’s about 47-48%) dependent on the government. In the US these people pay NO taxes whatsoever and receive varying amounts of support from the government.”

    Just a quick note: Unless you are including children and pets in the 47%, you are probably referring to the percentage of the US population that pays no federal income tax. But if you really mean that 47-48% of American households manage to avoid paying any federal, state, and local income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, or property taxes, I’d like to see your source for the stats.

    FROM BILL: Just google “% who pay no taxes.” Then you’ll also see the progressive counter-argument, which is that many of those people are paying social security taxes. However, those people are SUPPOSED to be able to get that money back when they retire (we’ll see). There is no disputing this 47% figure. Apparently it was 38% in 2007. If there ever was a strategy to create class warfare, this is it. Negative social mood strikes again.

  42. Nancy says :

    Do you think in the 47% they are including the corporations and the individuals who have tax shelters and don’t pay federal taxes?

    The poor are growing in numbers as the median income falls. But, even so, these people pay taxes on the goods they purchase, many of which are federal. These minimally employed people also pay local taxes and payroll taxes. Isn’t it interesting that those who state that the 47% is “dependent” on the government, do not see that the corps and wealthy who don’t pay taxes are “dependent” on the government.

    This is because in the US, unless you live on a farm and never leave home and are independent of the power grid, you use government services. You use the roads and the bridges, and the police and fire and court system. You use the electric grid. Clean water is in some places provided by pipe, and in other areas simply protected by law (Rachael Carson et al). Clean air is protected by laws. Safe food is protected by laws (thanks to those who exposed the meat packing industry and others). Your right to own, buy or sell land is protected by laws governing real estate. And your right, Bill, to own a company that does international sales is protected by all sorts of laws that allow a person in England or Norway, to use a credit card that will generate money in your bank account.

    We are all dependent on the government to protect our personal safety, our economic safety and our sense of freedom.

    Now, let’s go back to the 47% who work for Walmart or MacDonalds or who have 13 children or who have a beginning business that provides enough deductions that they don’t pay Federal income taxes. What sense does it make to force them to pay more than they can afford, especially if we are not asking some corporations to pay any taxes at all?

    Does it help the US to have the poor replicating Bob Cratchit’s family in A Christmas Carol? The laws providing a safety net from FDR were intended to prevent this extreme poverty. The Affordable Health Care Act was to insure that Tiny Tim would have access to medical care. Everyone will pay a fair amount into health insurance and everyone will have access to life saving information, tests, procedures or medications.

    There are two parts to any deficit, the outgo and the income. If you ran your business off a credit card and gave all your customers discounts and other breaks, you might run into a deficit. Giving the customers breaks and discounts began with Ronald Reagan. Bush senior raised taxes a bit and was slammed for it. Clinton also raised taxes a bit and reduced costs, and balanced the budget. Bush 41 lowered taxes to unprecidented rates and entered two wars — something that had never been done. He was the first US President to go into a war without raising the funds to pay for at least some of it.

    President Obama can’t fix the deficit by firing more people. The gov’t for better or worse represents about 25% of the US economy, including military and Pentagon purchases and pensions as well as health care costs and Homeland Security. This was not all President Obama’s doing. Firing more people will reduce the tax base even more at a time when there aren’t any jobs available. If you want to make gov’t smaller, wait until there are jobs for them to move to. State gov’ts are already firing teachers and other gov’t workers in record numbers, adding to the Unemployment costs and lowered tax revenue.

    You know that a business survives because there is a consumer base buying products. The more the middle class slips into the poverty class, the smaller the consumer base becomes. Rebuilding a strong consumer base will end the recession and nothing else will end it. If there aren’t customers, there won’t be any business. If there isn’t business, there won’t be any increase in jobs. This is why it is a good time to rebuild the infrastructure: bridges, roads, public buildings and so forth. Adding those jobs to the economy will improve business which might then be inclined to provide lasting jobs. Without an improvement in the consumer base, there won’t be any improvement in the recession will there?

    FROM BILL: The US has either the highest or one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. This is paid by many small and medium sized businesses. Much of what you have heard about corporations not paying taxes is just plain bull. Yes, some of the big multinational corporations do have tax breaks, which they should not have. What the left wants, however, is ALL businesses to pay more taxes, which will make the current depression much deeper.

    And, I’ll tell you that the “tax breaks for the rich” you hear about are NON-EXISTENT. I have the best accounting talent money can buy and believe me, there are NO tax breaks for people in high income brackets. IN fact, many (many) things other people get to deduct are NOT deductible by those in the higher income brackets, I pay a SHITLOAD of taxes. If there are tax breaks for the rich, the top accounting firms do not know what they are. Trust me on this.

    And, as far as everyone using the roads, the courts, and so forth, yes, we do–and, we pay for it in state and local taxes by the truckload. The only “rich” I know of who get a break are those who invest a lot of money in businesses, who get capital gains rates (currently 15%). This is to encourage investment, and to acknowledge the great risk taken on by such people–so they can create jobs.

    There is no benefit to MORE money going to the government, other than giving it more power and increasing the security of public employee unions who have a deal MANY times richer than any such counterparts in the private sector.

    Finally, those who pay no Federal or state income tax do pay payroll tax, which is supposedly set aside for them. The only reason it can be called a tax is because a) it is involuntary, and b) the goverment conveniently “borrows” the money to pay for more corporate and other kinds of welfare, which is pretty much the same as stealing from people.

    Much of what you have heard about the rich and taxes is, as I said, pure baloney.

  43. Gary says :

    > However, those people are SUPPOSED to be able to get that money back when they retire

    Sorry, Social Security is a ponsi scheme. The money they paid in went to pay current retires or was “borrowed” by congress to pay for other programs. If we and they get any money it will be form the then current working people, if the scheme lasts that long.

    When I was in school we were told it was a “trust fund” and that we would get back the money that we put into it, like a savings account. If it ever really was that I don’t know. But I have heard that congress has been taking funds and giving IOUs for a long time now.

    FROM BILL: Yes, they have lied to everyone for years. Trust the government? I’d sooner trust a local burglar.

  44. nancy says :

    The “left” does not want small and middle sized business to pay more! The “left” would be happy to lower the corporate tax and end the deductions used by the corps who can afford a battalion of lobbyists. I think we agree on this.

    From Bill: “And, I’ll tell you that the “tax breaks for the rich” you hear about are NON-EXISTENT. I have the best accounting talent money can buy and believe me, there are NO tax breaks for people in high income brackets. IN fact, many (many) things other people get to deduct are NOT deductible by those in the higher income brackets, I pay a SHITLOAD of taxes. ”

    In the 1950’s when you and I were growing up, the top tax rate was 90%. You are not paying that I know. This prevented the million $ salaries. Exec’s had benefits instead. Now Insurance CEO’s have both. They have private jets and million$ salaries for denying their customers from accessing needed treatment or for rescinding their contracts. IN the 1950’s ppl complained about taxes, but not as much as ppl do now. The national highway system was built and NASA was started and we went to the moon. Now states are selling off their highways for $$ and bridges are falling down. Which America do you prefer? That is really the only question here.

    I am curious about how many Federal Taxes you were paying when you were building your business and not taking a salary? You were among the 47% weren’t you? And, I believe you should have been! You see, the left is not complaining about beginning businesses and inventors or entrepreneurs who don’t pay taxes. They are complaining about the corps making billions, who chew up the roads and bridges with their trucking traffic, and don’t pay taxes. We are not fighting with you, but you have been led to believe that we are. Who is misleading you do you think? The left is protesting against Wall St (paying 15% capital gains taxes) not against Centerpointe.

    PS: You didn’t really answer how much minimum wage workers, (eg. a Veteran, Mom, working as a Security Guard, with two kids) should pay in Federal tax when her take home is $300/week and she lives in NYC. FOX never tells you who these minimum wage workers are when they attack the fact they aren’t paying Federal Taxes.

    FROM BILL: You are completely mistaken about this tax stuff. I didn’t pay pay taxes when I didn’t have income. The 47% are getting money FROM the government (which I am paying). There is nothing fair about the top 1% pay 38.02% of all Federal taxes. The top 5% pay 58.72%. The top 10% pay 69.94%. The bottom 50% pay 2.7%. The percentage paid by the top earners has be steadily going up for a number of years. Yet the left continually says the “rich” aren’t paying their fair share! What would be a “fair share”? Paying ALL the taxes for the entire country?

    High taxes on producers stifle growth and jobs. The left IS wanting to raise my taxes. They are not talking just about people who make BILLIONS (which is a handful of people). You might not want to go after businesses lik Centerpointe, but you are woefully misinformed if you think that those in power see it the same way. You might be assuming that, but I’m telling you, it isn’t true. They do want to raise my taxes. In fact, they have already raised my taxes and want to raise them more.

    And, there is a good reason why capital gains are taxed at a lower rate–so people with money will invest in new enterprises, which creates jobs. The tax is low to ofset the huge risk involved in starting new enterprises.

    If all the people who made more than $200,000 a year were taxed at 100% it would pay off less than 2% of the debt. And, of course, there would be zero investment in new companies. “Tax the rich” is NOT being proposed because it provides any kind of solution. It is being proposed because the left hate the successful. It is nothing more than class warfare. With nearly half of the people in the US not paying anything (and in fact, RECEIVING money from the government), the left has a nice little power base of voters who have no reason to consider when they vote whether the government shouldn’t stick it to those who do pay taxes.

    I get that you can repeat progressive talking points about this. Clearly you have no actual experience in the real world where the effects of these policies are felt and aren’t aware of the realities of this issue.

  45. Kalynn says :


    I just purchased your Holosync product and look forward to receiving it. I happened to follow a link from the Thank You page and found this blog. After spending the last hour or so reading down all the comments in this September 23rd post, I have to tell you…I like you.

    FROM BILL: Well, I like you, too.

  46. Jeff H says :

    Wish (magic talk) I could argue against your premise but can’t.

    The Achhdruid Report’s John Michael Greer stated his mantra for the future a while back; “There is no brighter future”.

    As do you, he is doing what can be done to prepare as many as possible for the coming changes. Thanks; you’ve a Big Heart/Big Mind.

    Saw pictures today of the new money calling attention to how closely it resembles Monopoly money color wise; do TPTB have this kind of black humor or is this unconscious serendipity?

    I’d continue to use Holosync (almost done Flowering) even if you were a card carrying leftist.


  47. fox says :

    Bill, you said:
    “In fact, though, the government is telling us that there is too much CO2, most of which is made by trees!”

    hmmm, trees make CO2 ?!?

    FROM BILL: Oops. I meant to say that trees consume CO2.

  48. Chris says :

    Bill, I haven’t checked out every comment from every blog post, so I’m not sure if you’ve already answered this. But….. how long do you think this “down” period will last?

    FROM BILL: Well, I’m not sure about that. When the stock market crashed in 1929, it wasn’t until 1948 that things really turned around. This downturn is at a higher degree (Grand Supercycle rather that Supercycle, if I have my Elliot Wave terminology correct). The 1930s/1940s was a 2nd wave correction in an ongoing positive social mood. Many people think this is the beginning of a time where the overall trend is negative, which will make this much worse. For this particular downtrend, Robert Prechter is looking for a bottom in 2016. Bert Dohmen, another quite smart observer of the financial markets (The Wellington Letter, one of my favorites), is predicting a bottom in 2017. Assuming that their predictions are accurate (who knows), I would expect a positive bounce at that point for some period of time, followed by a resumption of the downtrend. Personally, I think this may be of a similar degree to the fall of the Roman Empire. All of this is educated (I hope) guessing, of course.

  49. Bernd says :

    Hi all,
    sorry..I didn’t read through all the posts, so disregard this if it has been asked before. Where does diversity come into play? Surely a “natural” forest is different to a plantation with fertilizer, for many reasons.


    FROM BILL: There’s no way humans are going to undo natural diversity. Humans have much less impact that the left makes out. Certainly there are differences between a natural forest and a cultivated forest. In some ways one is “better” and in some ways the other is better. The earth has undergone huge changes over and over and over and always keeps going. It will keep going this time, too. Progressives bring up all this “the sky is falling” stuff in order to gain more power and to further centralize their control. IMO, many if not most of the problems they are worried about (those that actually ARE problems) are create BY central planning, not SOLVED by it.

  50. Chris M says :

    Hello bill.

    I have a suggestion. To start off, this isn’t coming from a particularly egomaniacal place, ftr.

    You have incorporated the Briggs personality profiling into your method – that presented on this site or at least in your LPIP courses. You have mentioned about how childhood wounding shapes our lives, on one level of abstraction (or generalization). This wounding idea seems to fit with the Enneagram personality concept quite well. Have you ever thought about doing a post on your synthesis of this? For all I know, someone in your personal development circle(s) have done this already, from my limited experience, I haven’t found such a thing yet. (-and I don’t pretend to understand your motives, ether.) -Another two cents for the pond.

    To Mike Robinson:
    I like sushi, there’s a place down the road from me. However, naturally, people, assuming along the lines of ‘capitalism is bad’ have permeated into the surrounding culture. And the owners of the Sushi place BELIEVE THEM (equivalent). The result is the sushi place has lower quality food, but is more popular. Does that seem right to you? I only say this because I myself enacted (subtly) this kind of behavior.
    Bill has certainly presented with some spaciousness around the issues, similar to how a cat chasing its own tail realizes how ridiculous it is. He has presented a map. Even if he is a bastard, it’s still a map. (no offense bill).

    FROM BILL: I’m a bastard? Okay.

    I deal with the Myers-Briggs personality typing system in my Life Principles Intergration Process online courses (LPIP).

  51. Santiago says :

    Bill I tried to post this before but there seemed to be some problems with the blog, here it is again:

    What are your thoughts on the James Ray issue ? I know he’s your friend and I’ve heard you’ve supported him, unlike his other friends at the TLC (or so I’ve heard). What would you say is the teaching for all of us here ?

    FROM BILL: James has been incredibly arrogant. In fact, he may be the past world champion of arrogance. However, I don’t think he is actually guilty of killing anyone. Makes good headlines, and is good politically for the attorney general of AZ, and it makes good revenge for all the people who put him on a pedestal (and who are now just as connected to him emotionally as they obsess about getting revenge.

    I am not a close friend of James Ray, but I have spoken to him a few times during his trial. He has been truly humbled. He has lost all his money, most of his friends, and his reputation. I suspect he will probably next be in jail for some further humbling. From what I can tell he sincerely questions nearly everything he once taught, and the attitude with which the taught it.

    I feel for those who died, or were injured. Most of them, in fact, were Holosync users. My best advice is for them to let it go. Get an emotional divorce from James. Hating him is just as much of a connection to him as loving him, and will not bring anyone back from the dead. Let it go–for your own sake. James will pay, one way or the other. Hating and seeking revenge makes the hater suffer, not James.

  52. Ken says :

    One more thing regarding environmentalism.

    It helps to remember one important point that the left often forgets. Every species on the Earth belongs here, from trees, to frogs to animals to humans. Each species disturbs its environment to survive (eat), make itself comfortable (build dens, nests) and reproduce with the cutest thing around (whether by chirping more loudly than competitors or buying a shiny Mercedes Benz and getting plugs).

    The left usually believes that every creature on the Earth has the right to be here and disturb its environment except humans; everything humans do to the environment is bad, wrong, unnatural. Can you see how crazy that is?

    As the Earth’s apex predators, we can do many things to our environment that other animals cannot do. Since humans aren’t satisfied living in caves and want wood or brick structures for our families, we will necessarily use far more resources than any other species. Is this an abomination or the natural order? Is it logical to argue every species on the Earth belongs here and deserves to do whatever they want to survive except humans? Beavers never get the left’s permission before chewing down trees to build a dam, even protected trees. But that’s ok with the left because they’re not humans. Plus, beavers never listen to the left. They just bite them when they get too close.

    Consider the possibility that humans belong here. That we naturally use more resources because we have the ability. And the highest goal of people might be to be kind to others, not hurt other people and not waste resources. Of course, these types of objectives occur a bit higher up on the evolutionary scale. But many people are there now, including most readers of this blog, I’m guessing.

    Before you ask, how much is enough Ken, I’m sure you already know that the answer is different for each person. I’m guessing Europeans think Americans use too much while Americans think the French, for example, averaging 1-2 showers a week, might want to consider using a wee bit more–water at least. But the point is, it’s not helpful for you to believe others should only want what you want, in the exact way you want it, or you’ll either wring your hands in worry or yell at Bill, whatever’s more your thing.

    People will never want what you want. It’s like resisting impermanence. You can waste your life trying to control the uncontrollable or you can say everyone is doing the best they know how and it’s ok (as long as they don’t mess with my stuff).

    Since the only person in this world we can really control is ourselves, maybe we should all start there and then move on to controlling others just as soon as we’ve mastered that.

    P.S. Bill, you bastard.

    FROM BILL: Remember my posts about entropy, chaos, and reorganization (Breaking Up Is Hard To Do)? Go read ’em again. “Disturbing the environment” is the creation of entropy (“waste”). But one species waste is another’s food. There are no energy exchanges in the universe without the creation of entropy. The left wants to pretend that if they were only in total control, they could outlaw entropy and all other “problems.” Taint so. Impossible. And, while they are demonizing entropy, they actually create more of it than others. Ironic, ain’t it?

  53. Michelle S says :

    I read the posts and responses with great interest. Whether the forest is better disturbed or undisturbed how would we know anyways for a long time.
    What do you think of the ‘occupy wall street movement’ that is happening there, and over other cities? Is this a result of people trying to fight back against big government and policies of bail out corporations? or are the people being misled into thinking it’s all the companies fault? A lot is being said that the people protesting have a big laundry list of complaints-which normally makes things less effective to have any kind of change.
    Unfortunately I don’t think this will have an effect on government or company policy-there is no benefit for them to change.
    What do you think it would take for the government to change to become smaller? I don’t imagine changes like this happen quickly-wouldn’t it be more like a series of smaller earthquakes precipitating a larger one?
    Thanks for the tips on dealing with debt-mine is mostly gone, it’s just the governments I have to worry about paying back.


    FROM BILL: The Wall Street protesters are what Lenin called “useful idiots.” They are right that the government and the biggest corporations are in cahoots. Other than that, they seem to have very little understanding of how the economy actually works, what has worked or failed historically, why all of this is happening, or anything else. They are the very types I have suggested in other posts that are easily duped and used by demogogues. This is one reason why I have begged you to learn about history, learn about how capitalism and socialism and fascism really work, etc, etc. The uniformed are easily manipulated.

    The government will not get smaller until it crashes of its own weight.

    That you have to pay back debt created by central planners one of many reasons why central planning isn’t in anyone’s interest except the central planners.

  54. Terry says :

    I know that Bill can look after himself, but a comment was made that really ought to be challenged.

    I will concede that some of Bill’s responses to posts are quite brash, in some cases the brashness is justified and in others it is not.

    However Bill does NOT deserve the kind of abuse levelled at him by you Chris M.

    This blog is a free service which Bill does to help people. Whilst I would defend your right to challenge and disagree with anything Bill says, overt abuse of the sort in your message is completely unacceptable.

    Please have a bit of respect.

  55. Slam says :


    Stop with the myopic babble republican discourse disguised as spiritual wisdom. It’s not a question between central planning and free market. Read Capitalism 4.0 to broaden your perspective. This isn’t fact based and it puts to question your entire Holosync process.

    FROM BILL: Well, you’ve just answered one question for me. You are quite likely not contributing much to society, as only parasites or those who have no knowledge of how the real world works and where the goods you live on really come from could say such things. Sad.

  56. Hi Bill

    Re: Terry’s dig at Chris M

    Whilst I agree that some abuse and words are unwarranted, Bill has allowed a number of people to vent at various points in this and the HIAHB series of blogs, and they do sometimes have a de-cluttering effect on previously held opinions, or an otherwise filling in of the blanks in understanding.

    Bill has maintained full consistency in his words and actions, giving facts and actualities (I use those terms rather than blame and excuses) at all times. I think a difficulty comes where people are new to Holosync (as I myself was earlier this year) and agree with much of what he’s says. I say this simply because it means rightly or wrongly a hard-wired belief set isn’t being sufficiently challenged. I see Bill rant and rave about Leftists with very few Leftists actually challenging or putting forward alternate views.

    Bill talk’s about Marxism and Communism like a former smoker reacts to current smokers or a settled immigrant in a new Country behaves “more English than the English” -an English phrase relating to people who over adopt new ideas and a new Country according to the dominant culture of given time period. Example – Cynics often branded Tony Blair more Tory than the Tory’s and someone who opted for the Labour Party simply because it provided him an advantage in his rise to power during his younger years.

    So Bill in reading what I have just written would you agree that you may come across as being Overtly or Heavily Right Wing Capitalist as a Guilt ridden response to the themes of your own youth? Are there any Triggers left at all that provoke reactions within yourself that you thought you had long left behind?

    FROM BILL: I’m not reacting to anything in my youth. I’m reacting to the incredible suffering caused by central planners. And, my friends, the amount of it to come is going to be humbling, I promise you. Unfortunately, with the media and the educational system in the hands of progressives for many decades, an entire generation of people have had little or no access to anything other than the incredibly slanted progressive point of view. I bought this point of view myself until I discovered that there was another side to the story AND got out into the real world and began to see how the goods and services we all want and need are actually created.

  57. Dave S Perkins, Terry, Slam, etc.

    The problem isn’t with debate, it’s with ad hominem arguments and other logical fallacies. There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone’s point of view and providing counter-arguments, but that’s not what some posters here do. Instead, they say Bill is a Republican bastard, or whatever, and don’t even attempt to refute his arguments or provide evidence of their own point of view. What’s more, merely citing some authority (who is contestable in any case) isn’t an argument.

    Even worse, though, is why someone would trash Holosync and Bill’s other products merely because they don’t agree with Bill’s politics. Yes, Slam, I’m talking to you. Would you really deprive yourself of the benefits of Holosync because you have a hard time with some of Bill’s opinions? Please, grow up!

    Richard Martin

    FROM BILL: The same point I’ve made many times. If you want to disagree, bring some fact and evidence to the table. Every once in a while a left winger actually tries to enter into a logical argument instead of just calling names. It just takes my breath away when that happens! The amount of name-calling is a good gauge of how many facts a person doesn’t have.

  58. Terry says :

    Yes Richard. Well said.

    Quite frankly it’s beyond me though how David or anyone else could interpret my remarks to mean that I am against debate or probing Bill for clarification. What I said is the polar opposite of that.

    i’m merely suggesting that we exercise a bit of decorum and courtesy. You’d think I was asking for the earth!

    Although Slam’s comments are hogwash, at least he or she wasn’t abusive. If people want to stick their heads in the sand and cling to self-sabotaging beliefs, that’s up to them.

    I’ve decided I’m not going to suffer over that and I will work with those who are willing to open their minds.

  59. joel says :


    I want to find out about prominent figures in the 30’s and 40’s. Figures who helped others, who eased other peoples suffering. I want to find out about people who were compassionate and who did something to help people during not only the 30’s and 40’s but through out low / negative times in history.

    Can you point me in the right direction for a bit of study and research?

    cheers Bill.

    FROM BILL: Read The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom. Google Nazi resistance and related topics, like “hiding Jews inNazi Germany”. Any ideas, Richard?

  60. Terry,

    Here is what Slam said: “Stop with the myopic babble republican discourse disguised as spiritual wisdom.” That’s not directly ad hominem, but pretty close, which is why I gather Bill responded as he did.

    I agree fully with your assessment and point about decorum. The reality is that debate, real grown up, respectful debate, requires a high level of maturity, not to mention knowledge, skill at listening and argument, and an ability to see another’s point of view. Hmmm. Sounds like post-conventional/post-autonomous development to me. And that goes for left, right, center, up or down on the political spectrum.


  61. Rob G says :

    Hi All,

    I think ‘blog rage’ is the new Road rage.

  62. Ken says :

    Well said, Bill & RM.

    I don’t get people who stop using something that helps them if the guy selling it doesn’t vote the way they want. Absurd. Actually, not absurd, self destructive. Ever hear the expression cutting off your nose to spite your face?

    Even if Bill was a commie I’d still buy his holosync disks because they help ME. The fact that he happens to be of my exact party affiliation is merely a bonus. Bill, you are a member of the “rent is too damn high” party, right?

  63. It’s like I said ten years ago: the world as we know it is being destroyed by ______________. (you can fill in the blank) Millions of people will suffer because of this!
    I’ll say it again now: the world as we know it is being destroyed. This time, it is being destroyed by ___________ (fill in the blank). Millions of people will suffer because of this. Many of them will be in North America! Oh heck, now I’m upset!

    Change is inevitable, the old system has to fall apart in order for the new system to emerge, and no one (not even the best of the futurists) can say with any certainty what the new system will be (learned that from you, Bill dear.)

    Choose A, B or C
    A. The new system will be awful
    B. The new system will be whatever it is
    C. There won’t be a new system. We’re doomed, we’re all doomed.

    I’m going with B.

  64. Chris M says :

    It has taken me a bit of time to emotionally digest what you said terry, and even so, admittedly, I’m a bit confused. Mainly because I like to keep things open, at the least. Are you trying to help me? Can we have different uses for bill? I am quite an arrogant and aggressive person, I suppose you could say. Then there is the whole implied vs direct meaning thing to consider.

    One of the issues in a time where avoidance of effort is on the rise is presumably ‘Tall Poppy syndrome’.

    In a way, I was ribbing him about this kind of thing. It’s so easy to resent the successful because they are sucking up all the success, making us look bad, right?

  65. I have written several responses to Terry’s misrepresentation of my words perceiving perhaps a more enlightened view was required the universe made it impossible for me to submit the comments at those times.

    This central market vs free planning debate is similar (at least in my mind) to the internal external validation thought processes that we all have in our day to day lives.

    Some examples of this happened recently – Friday I was asked my thought regarding the England Football World Cup Qualifier for which I was derided for suggesting a draw – the game ended as a draw. Saturday morning The World Cup rugby – again I suggested I would financially back France and Wales (though my heart was with England), those two teams went on to win. Later in the day I myself looked for external validation Suggesting a Wales vs South Africa final, Sunday Morning South Africa promptly lost.

    This is where learning to trust your own internal freedom to choose free marketing over central planning is a must. And allegorically I could go into hiding from the Nazis (or peoples who financially backed my South Africa suggestion) rather than go with they’re own internal dialogue.

    What some people refer to as spiral dynamics and Elliot Waves, may actually be termed by the aware as Anger Waves and it’s easy to understand why as babies we substantially though not completely disconnect from these Waves. I believe I stated previously that I use Holosync in combination with EFT/Chakra tapping in order that these waves remain external to my body and dissipated rather than have them trapped and causing me ill health. That is my freedom to choose.

    An Enlightened name-caller might say (In allegorical terms) Jesus is the Grim Reaper and who would argue with that apart from those who want to control and direct others when they don’t truly have control over themselves.

    I’m sure for most of us sifting through 10/20/30/40 + years of trapped fears in order to be open minded and released from suffering and indeed understanding that the body follows the mind/brain rather than the other way around is in always a continuing process in enhancing and resolving our internal maps or reality.

  66. I second your point about those who helped people escape from the Nazis. To keep things in perspective, I would also add the following excerpt from an article I wrote in November 2008 as the public first became aware of the unfolding financial crisis:

    “A natural response is to hunker down and adopt a defensive posture, to wait for better times to come back. Instead, we need to make plans and organize our lives so that we get beyond mere survival and thrive. We must avoid sticking our heads in the sand and prepare for various contingencies while staying on the lookout for opportunities and positive changes. It can take a lot of courage and determination to do so, but that is what good leaders do during times of turmoil and crisis.

    It’s gloomy now and it may get better or worse. I don’t know and no one else does. But remember this. Movies and radio really took off as industries during the Great Depression. There were also major advances in aeronautical technology, automotive technology, and many of the household goods we associate with the booming 1950s, such as washing machines and refrigerators, were actually invented in the 20s and 30s and their respective industries took off during the Depression. The social and economic turmoil also led to the creation of social programs that we now take for granted and which make the lives of millions better every day. This was because of political leaders who were prepared to take calculated and prudent risks. In some cases, they had to lead everyone else in taking very bold ones, people such as Roosevelt.

    No matter what, people will continue to need basic services such as transportation, health care, education, and food distribution. They will seek new forms of entertainment and recreation. They will continue to learn and to develop as people, to read books, and to travel. Individuals and companies will also seek new forms of security, new investments, and new challenges. Quantum computing, communications technologies, robotics, artificial intelligence, genomics, environmental science, to name but a few, will probably have a massive impact on economies and societies. Businesses will be created in the process of what Joseph Schumpeter termed the “creative destruction” of capitalism.

    Through all of this, it can be of help to focus on three basic principles. First, we need to focus on our strengths. Second, we need to be ready to reinforce success and to jump on opportunities because they may appear very quickly and be somewhat ephemeral. Third, we need to create products, services and modes of organization that are in tune with the times.”

    In other words, whether you are running a business, raising a family, providing succour to others through charity, or conducting basic research, there are countless ways to help others.

    Richard Martin

  67. Bristow says :

    Hi Bill,

    Have you heard of this young man? What do you think?

    Sending THANKS for Holosync from Montreal, Canada.

    FROM BILL: Sorry, I don’t have time to look into it.

  68. Bristow says :

    @ Joel

    Read “An Interrupted Life” The Diaries of Etty Hillesum 1941 – 1943.

    She helped many people through having worked on herself first by refusing to hate her persecutors but rather choosing to see them as human beings as opposed to monsters.

    Also, but from a different angle, “Outwitting the Gestapo” by Lucie Aubrac, a young catholic woman living in Lyon under the Nazi Occupation during World War 2, she planned and took part in raids (while pregnant with her second child) to free captive comrades, including her own husband, under death sentence – from the prisons of Klaus Barbie, the infamous “Butcher of Lyon.”

    I could list hundreds of similar books here but like Bill advises, Google is your best bet. Amazon might be a good source as well as some second hand books websites like Many of these books were finally written in the 1980s and might be difficult to find new.

    If you are interested in reading/learning about life under the nazi regime, I would recommend the diaries of Victor Klemperer “I Will Bear Witness” A Diary of the Nazi Years 1933 – 1941, “I Will Bear Witness” A Diary of the Nazi Years 1942 – 1945 and The Diaries of Victor Klemperer 1945 – 1959 “The Lesser Evil”.

    Victor Klemperer’s acute eye for the corruption of his contemporaries and his sharp ear for the corruption of language make these diaries an inexhaustible mine of information and insight for anybody interested in the German catastrophe.

    “The Lesser Evil” continues to make his diary compulsive reading as it offers an insight into the reasons why a man who was otherwise so perceptive and principled falls in with one of the most venal regimes imposed on Eastern Europe by the victorious Soviet Union. It also offers a superb window on life in Soviet-occupied Germany in 1945-9 and the early years of the German Democratic Republic.

    P.S. Bill, the book you mention, “The Hiding Place” by Corrie Ten Boom was made into a movie in 1989, starring Julie Harris and directed by James F. Collier. Very hard hitting and faithful to the book. I have it in VHS format, don’t know if available in DVD.

    When all men think alike, no one thinks very much.
    ~Walter Lippmann~

  69. Santiago says :

    Bill I have a question about regulations. Would libertarians get rid of the FDA ? I know MIlton Friedman argued that the FDA shouldn’t get involved in how efficient a drug is, he used the example of beta blockers that could save lives but where not allowed in the US because of FDA regulations.

    Of course the other side of that is that without a drug regulation policy, people could get badly hurt by side effects. I know is in the best interest of pharmaceuticals that their products work as best as they can, but still mistakes can be made. Friedman said the FDA should oversee that the drugs didn’t cause harm but they should stay out of how efficient the drug is.

    In other words, in a free market someone could sell sugar water for a lot of money and say that it is the cure for cancer, which of course the forces of the market would eventually get rid of.

    What are your thought on this regulation issue ?

    FROM BILL: People ARE selling snake oil as a cure for cancer, and the FDA isn’t doing anything about it. I would get rid of the FDA, certainly. They have caused thousands of deaths by making people wait for new drugs (many of which are legal in Europe and saving lives long before the FDA approves them in the US). Drug companies have a much greater versted interest in safe and effective drugs than does the government. A bad drug ruins the reputation of a drug company, and once the reputation is gone, it’s gone, just as a restaurant who serves food that makes people sick loses its reputation.

  70. Willy says :

    Bill do you think because of regulation we will see a rise in the black market? For example I know people who have gone out on Government land and grown a crop and sold it on the market. I guess you could call that Black Farming and the advantages of it is you do not have to worry about fines and regulation from the Government if you don’t get caught.

    I wonder if Government regulations get worse will people just start making products on their own; a form of Black Industrialism. Selling them online using a crypto-currency like Bitcoin that the government can not easily monitor. We already have drug dealers using bitcoin to sell their products anonymously online.

    Could this overreaching of the Government result in a Golden age in the black market? We have come to a time in history where our technology has reached a point where we can get around the government. Bitcoin is the first example of this you can now buy and sell with out GOV. interference. Bitcoin may have its problems but it is a sign of what is to come. If the Government continues it assault on the Market people may decide to take the risk and tell the government to go to hell, and move into the black market and currencies like bitcoin.

    FROM BILL: When government regulations rise, black markets rise with them.

  71. arturo says :

    Hey Bill,
    When you say you support some regulation but not a lot, can you define it a bit more? For example, in your ideal world/government situation, how would the police, miltary and fire departments function? I am still trying to understand the practical application of Libertarianism. I do like the concept though and I liked some parts of “How I found Freedom….”. Thanks in advance for your response.

    FROM BILL: If you read How I Found Freedom and don’t understand how libertarianism works, I don’t know what I can do for you. Police and fire departments would work the same way they work now.

  72. Peter Jauhal says :

    The Success of Swedish Society is Not Due to the Welfare State

    So argues Nima Sanandaji in a new paper from Libera called ‘The Swedish Model Reassessed – Affluence Despite the Welfare State’. Instead, the paper argues that Swedish affluence is “…the result of cultural and demographic factors, as well as a favorable business environment throughout most of Sweden’s modern history.”

    The evidence presented to support this hypothesis is threefold. Firstly, it is argued that Sweden displayed comparatively higher rates of growth and had a particularly vibrant society well before the start of the Social Democratic era in 1936. Secondly, descendants of Swedes who migrated to the United States in the nineteenth century are also today characterized by favorable social outcomes, such as a low poverty rate and high employment. The Nordic nations have, for hundreds of years, benefited from sound institutions, such as a strong Lutheran work ethic, a homogeneous population, and high levels of trust, civic participation and cooperation. Thirdly, starting in the 1990s, Sweden has dramatically scaled back the size and scope of government, which was followed by a recovery of the earlier strong growth rate. The period characterized by the most extensive welfare state policies, around 1970–1995, is associated with low growth rates.

  73. Terry says :

    Chris M – I guess I to try to treat people the way I want to be treated, and if someone had engaged me like that, I wouldn’t have been happy about it.

    It may be that sometimes with online discussion people forget that they are actually talking to real people with feelings. Other times it might just be a case of forgetting that words can come across a lot differently in print versus when they’re said directly where your tone of voice and facial expressions can make it clearer when you’re joking.

    David – I understood your remarks to mean that whilst you agreed that “some” abusive words were unwarranted, you thought that ranting at Bill was somehow helpful or necessary to understanding his comments as it helped “filling in of the blanks in understanding”.

    I was suggesting that we can do all the clarification and de-cluttering we need without insults or ranting.

    On a separate note, I’d like to make a couple of recommendations of folks who have some insightful things to say on politics and economics – Walter E Williams and George Will, both of whom have blogs that you can subscribe to. You can find them with google.

    Bill – could you recommend objective sources which overview the monopoly claims around Standard Oil, and the other examples you cited (RCA, AT&T, and Microsoft). Thanks.

    Best to everyone.

    FROM BILL: I’m sorry, but I can’t do everyone’s research for them. In this day and age, anyone should be able to find anything quickly online.

  74. arturo says :

    ” How I found Freedom…” was mostly about the method for an individual to live with freedom in the current society and government set-up. I am asking about how the government and regulations would like if the government itself followed a libertarian approach. I hope that clarifies my previous question.

    FROM BILL: The government will never follow a libertarian approach. That would be like asking a wolf not to eat sheep. If you want to know more about libertarianism and how it would work, do some research. There’s tons of information available. I can’t do all your research for you.

  75. Ken says :


    You sound overworked my friend. Do you need a vacation? How about a nice trip to New Orleans? I recently got back from a trip there with my girlfriend. Great food. Great jazz. Great deals at the art galleries. We forgot all of our troubles. If you’d like a sample, I bought some extra Best of Preservation Hall jazz cds to give out to friends. I have an extra one with your name on it if you’re interested.


  76. Margaret says :

    I am truly amazed how readers of this blog have attack you Bill for trying to hand them the key to personnel freedom. I don’t get how they don’t get it. Maybe they are so “institutionalized” they feel more comfortable living under the growing arm of the state.

  77. Terry says :

    How funny Ken. I was thinking the exact same thing. Have a holiday buddy. You do sound like you need one.


  78. Kevin says :

    I just found some fantastic resources by Irwin Shiff which explain the situation America is in today. They’re short, simple, and in comic book format, but have some very valuable lessons.

    How an Economy Grows & Why it Doesn’t

    The Kingdom of Moltz

    And if you have an extra hour this is a speech by him explaining the dire situation we’re in today, and how it’s developed over the years.

  79. Santiago says :

    Bill do you think the dollar will collapse soon ?

    FROM BILL: No, I don’t. Dollars are the place to be right now.

  80. Santiago says :

    Help me out Bill I’m confused, isn’t all this printing of new dollars by the FED devaluating the dollar ? Do you prefer dollars because the european policies driving the euro are even worst ?

    FROM BILL: In a deflation, people want dollars. They NEED dollars. The dollar is the world’s reserve currency. That means other countries need dollars, not just Americans. When something is needed it becomes more valuable.

  81. Carlos says :

    After learning many, many things from Bill Harris in the last few years I have learned a very important lesson when this blog took a turn and start dealing more with political/economic/social issues.

    I realized how superficial was my knowledge about history and politics not to mention science and economics. but most importantly I learned to keep my mouth shut unless I am willing to pay the price (in time and dedication) to learn about a topic enough to express my opinion about it.

    It is not that I necessarily buy the opinions of Bill that are totally opposite of what I thought before , but unless I am willing to learn about the specific topic (which sometimes I dont have the time and motivation) then I will keep my mind open.

    I think that is a really valuable lesson.


  82. Eric says :

    Was reading something by Franklin Merrell-Wolf that reminded me of this blog:

    “In these days…one who is interested in the welfare of man can scarcely be indifferent to the problem of government. It is clear that thus far all our attempts in government on a large scale have fallen short of a really satisfactory success. Otherwise there would not be so much of change and demand for changes.
    For a government to be truly successful it must maintain in high degree in the social body three principles, (1) Freedom, (2) Justice, and (3) Efficiency. Now, none of the forms of government that we have tried so far have afforded enduring success in all three respects. The rule of kings and aristocracies has at times worked reasonably well, but in recent as well as ancient history we have seen very clearly how badly this form can fail when there is a decay of character and competency in the ruling classes. Under certain conditions, democracy does function fairly satisfactorily. These conditions seem to be the following:
    1.) That the unit of government is not so large as to be beyond the effective comprehension of the average voter.
    2.) That the intelligence and sense for responsibility in governmental affairs of the average voter is considerably above that of the average human being.
    3.) That the governmental problems are fairly simple.
    In modern large nations, with our extremely complex civilization and particularly where there is considerable heterogeneity of population, these conditions are far from being fulfilled….
    (Pathways Through To Space, The Problem of Government)

    Just thought I would share. The essay goes on and concludes that government is a hopeless situation – too big and too much of a mess.

    FROM BILL: The is precisely why centralized control is wasteful and inefficient (it’s also corrupt, but that’s for other reasons). No central control can see and deal with all the complexity. A free market, however, deals with all the complexity by allowing each person to deal with their part of the complexity, since they clearly see it and can act immediately to do their best to deal with it.

  83. Joel says :

    A quote I learnt from my grandpa today. Brilliant !!! “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ” Voltaire

    Wow, I have been shocked ( in a good way over the past few days ) !!!
    I have moved in with my grandfather. For me he was always just my grandpa! that would include hugs, getting ice-cream and going to the park.

    Now I am 23 years old, living with my grandpa for a few months. I look in his library. What do I find? basically all books that have been recommended by Bill in the recent months. From Asimov to Gibbon, The rise and fall of the third reich and more. I have been dying to get my hands on these books and here they are in my grandfathers own home. :)

    And that is just the beginning. It seems I am under the roof of a very wise educated man. :)

    I have got my own Bill now. haha


    FROM BILL: Good that you appreciate it. Learn. By the way, Voltaire did not say “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” It was said by Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire’s biographer, and has often been falsely attributed to him.

  84. Santiago says :

    Bill what’s your take on Reagan ? I was a baby when he was president, but according to what I’ve found he was very much for small government and free markets, did he succeed ? What was the result of his policies ?

    FROM BILL: Reagan, unfortunately, did not bring about smaller government. The government grew while he was president, though many attribute this to the Democratic Congress at the time.

  85. Well I was all set to order my next level of Holosync on Friday opening my Email box which I use in a quite disorderly fashion when lo and behold I find a series of Emails announcing Holosync 2: The Umpire Strikes back :), I’ve decided to belay my upgrade in anticipation of my Wow, Oh Wow Wow’s.

    Here’s a little poem I wrote yesterday giving guidance to how I sometimes resolve the complexities of my own mind processes, maybe it can or cannot be of service to some of your readership. Our own belief system whether limited or open and expansive generally dictates how we conduct ourselves and our lives and the orchestras with which we wave our baton’s wand’s gun’s or indeed fingers. I once read that when we point a finger at someone else there are three other fingers pointing back at us and generally try to live with principles or the symbolism ideas like those envelope.

    When I’m feeling most powerless in power,
    and objections scream and plague at my mind,
    I turn to a simple trick I learned,
    A trick I like to call the double-bind,
    Whether or not I want to heal and prosper,
    or do not want to heal and prosper here right now,
    in double-binding my subconscious intentions,
    I bypass thoughts that normally worry me,
    A clear direction is then set,
    I can say this is what I want,
    The Universe can fulfill a wish,
    When you write and bind the future you intend.

  86. Francis says :

    “No central control can see and deal with all the complexity. A free market, however, deals with all the complexity by allowing each person to deal with their part of the complexity, since they clearly see it and can act immediately to do their best to deal with it.”

    Doesn’t this view neglect the need for organization? Groups of people can achieve much more working together, than the sum of the parts of individuals working separately.

    [That’s my main point, and question – the rest I have written as something of an extension on that point].

    For an organization to function, control is required. It is built into the structure, to ensure people are pulling in the same direction to achieve the stated objectives of the group (whether the group be a charity, small association, government agency, or small to large company).

    That’s all rather obvious, so I suppose the more pertinent question is: are you opposed to LARGE organizations where tremendous amounts of regulation and control is required to function?

    Consider the regulation that is required just to address the “agency problem” in companies that are floated on a stock exchange.

    The agency problem is the discrepancy between the interests of those who manage companies and those who own them. Corporate governance is a set of mechanisms which aim to minimize this discrepancy, and are enforced by statute. In short, they exist to ensure that managers work towards INCREASING PROFITS on behalf of the shareholders.

    All stock exchanges require companies to comply with corporate governance rules/principles. (In the US compliance is required, while in some countries like the UK, compliance is not required but non-compliance must be justified).

    Corporate governance requires that directors of a company should be incentivized through BONUS schemes to work towards objectives that relate to the long term increase in profitability for the company.

    It also includes vast systems of internal control, including internal auditing, and requirements for the structuring of the board of directors.

    So what’s the point of this?

    It is that large corporations face the same challenges as government in managing operations to maximize efficiency and effectiveness, because there is nothing inherently different between a large corporation and a government agency.

    ALL organizations need to make the most of economic resources available to them.

    For this reason, government agencies are increasingly adopting the management principles employed by the commercial sector.

    Interestingly, the trend is towards “flatter” organization structure, meaning less levels in the hierarchy, and greater “spans of control” for managers.

    As you say, this has the benefit of increased flexibility and attunement to the increasingly fast moving economic and business environment.

    Advances in IT have fascilitated this by cutting out a lot of middle management that would have been employed in information processing, which is now largely taken care of by computerized systems.

    Flatter organization structure empowers lower level persons with more responsibility, authority, and accountability. This increases motivation, and therefore performance.

    However, there are disadvantages to a flat structure, the principle one being a loss of control. Much is entrusted by the strategic managers to relatively junior managers, which would previously have been managed by more experienced middle managers.

    Strategic managers can have quite hazy ideas about what is happening at the operational level, and that is the advantage of having middle managers who are there to turn strategic objectives into operational objectives that are achieved.


    Overall, I don’t think there is a major problem in the way America and other Western countries are being run.

    There are always inherent limitations in organizations, and governance of a country. Democracy itself is inefficient in many ways, but preferable to alternative systems.

    Balance is key. Organizations need to be regulated by laws, as well as achieving internal control, so a totally free market is out of the question. Without rules there would be anarchy. Without freedom there is a loss of motivation and a lack of flexibility.

    FROM BILL: Of course organization is beneficial. And, the most beneficial organizations are those where the people in the organization have choice about their actions. If the head of a corporation was micro-managing each employee, the organization wouldn’t work because the boss doesn’t know what each employee knows about what is in front of him or her at any given moment. The people who work for me make decisions every minute that I can’t make because I’m not there, seeing what they are seeing.

    There is another difference, too. In a company, we’re all getting together with a common goal, to create a product or service and deliver it to consumers in the most efficient way–to meet the needs of others in a way that makes it worth it for them to pay us for meeting those needs.

    In the case of a government, what is the goal? In the progressive point of view it is to improve society by telling people what they can and can’t do, by regulating them and restricting their choices based on what some central controller thinks is “right”. This means people cannot act in their own best interest, which means they are less likely to get their needs met, since they, better than anyone, know what those needs are and what is the best course of action to take to meet them. How can the central controller know better than you what products you want, what entertainment options you want, how you want to spend your own resources?

    In a more free market environment–as, by the way, the original founders of the United States had in mind–people are left to direct their own lives as long as 1) people are made to keep their agreements (ie, the government guarantees the sanctity of contracts, so the strong can’t fail to keep their agreements just because they are stronger); 2) private property is protected, so that once you work for something or create something yourself someone stronger than you can’t take it away by force; and 3) people are not allowed to kill other people, ruin the property of others, etc.

    In other words, the role of government is to protect freedoms, not to regulate people and restrict their choices. Governments, in this way of thinking, are not trying to create something. In that sense they are quite different than other organizations. But, as I said, even in other organizations, things work better to the degree that the members of the organization, as they work toward a common goal, have the ability to deal with what is in front of them on their own initiative and on their own individual perspective of what needs to be done–something that a central planner cannot do.

    Look at the way government organization work. They are wasteful, corrupt, and inefficient. The things they are supposed to regulate and make better are not made better, nor are they adequately regulated. Private organizations work INFINITELY better than government organizations, and for less money.

    Government organization are aggregations of power, and that power is always eventually corrupted and used in a tyrannical way to control people and reduce their choices. Private organizations exist to create something for an end-user. They are about service, and only succeed if the end user is served to his or her satisfaction.

    Goverment organizations have no built-in motivation to do that. They also have no motivation to use resources efficiently, because they are dealing with other people’s resources. That’s why government is so wasteful. When you deal with your own resources, you are careful. When then government deals with your resources, they aren’t. If you think this isn’t the case you are sadly naive.

    Only to the extent that the government workers are kindly people with high moral character does any of this happen in a government organization. Since government organizations are aggregations of power, and power corrupts, few in government behave in a kindly way. In private organizations you must act that way or the end user goes somewhere else for help with his or her needs.

    A free market is not at odds with cooperation or with the existence of organizations. In fact, it fosters both. Government fosters neither–at least, neither than work very well. And a free market is NOT the absence of laws. To say that is to set up a straw man. A free market has plenty of laws. The laws, however, protect your freedom to run your own life and make your own decisions, as long as you don’t harm others, fail to keep your word, or try to take the property of others.

  87. Santiago says :

    Great and short explanation on free market vs central planning

    Bill, in the present, which country or society would be the closest to a free market ?

    FROM BILL: Hong Kong, Singapore.

    The essay you linked to should be read by everyone.

  88. rosario says :

    dear bill,
    when we have completed the whole holosync program
    reaching the higher threshold possible
    we have to continue to listen the cd’s ?
    are you listening the cd’s yet ?
    thank you.

    FROM BILL: It’s up to you. Some people keep listening, others don’t.

  89. Distortion says :

    Is it possible that the coming economic decline of the next 5-6 year will decrease people’s faith in government as they begin to see that the government is unable to do anything useful about the situation? When you talk about chaos and re-organisation and I cross reference it with what I’ve learned from Harry Browne I’m pushed to ponder that if a re-organisation in society occurs it may take the form a dramatic reduction in the size and power of government and and corresponding increase in power to the freemarket and thus to people in general.

    FROM BILL: Unfortunately, historically there is move toward dictatorships and authoritiarian governments and away from democracies and republics in times of negative social mood. Initially many people will think this authoritarian appraoch is good–that finally something can be accomplished quickly. When they see what is accomplished, they will not be happy. Look at Europe or Asia in the 1930s for examples.

  90. Kevin says :

    To put it mildly, I liked this blog better when it was about Holosync meditation and personal growth.

    Your post reveals basic unfamiliarity with simple Econ 101 concepts of market failure, and in particular, externalities. The Wikipedia pages on each cover the basics. Rather than go off on a random straw man rant about the number of trees, you try to grapple with the more basic problem of pollution (for example). A manufacturer pays for its inputs and the cost of its inputs are reflected in the market price. The cost of pollution created, however, absent regulation, is not paid by the manufacturer, but is offloaded onto the general public (socialized, if you will) and is therefore not reflected in the market price. As a result, again absent regulation, there is the potential for us all to become significantly poorer, not in spite of but because of the market forces at play.

    Rather than spend a thousand words ranting about how SOMEONE who you can PROVE is wrong said that there are fewer trees in the world (hint–Al Gore didn’t say this), you might want to prove your exalted genius in a more constructive fashion by refuting the notion that there are market failures and externalities which, absent perfect regulation (which we can agree does not exist and is not achievable), are not accounted for in the free market. Then you can collect your Nobel prize and we can have a conversation which is more pertinent, if still far afield from topics relating to Holosync.

    FROM BILL: The Econ 101 you are familiar with is based on socialist principles, which in practice result in a lot of suffering and unfairness (ironic, when you stop to think that their advocates claim to be in favor of fairness). Quite frankly, I’ve forgetten more about economics than such people understand. I’m interested in what works–what decreases human suffering, what rewards initiative, what rewards the creation of better conditions for the world. Since the beginnings of capitalism the living standard of the world has gone up in the most remarkable way, by many, many multiples. See “Why The West Rules–For Now” for the actually data.

    If you don’t like this blog, there is a simple solution–don’t read it. Telling me that I don’t know what I’m talking about is hardly an argument. Bring some facts if you want to disagree with me.

    My next post is going to be about what all of this has to do with spiritual growth and why it is important.

  91. Joel says :


    I am confused.

    As you regularly say, we are caught in a matrix of cause and effect which we have little or no control over. Then you also say with enough awareness, you gain control over 1) How you feel, 2) How you behave, 3) Which people and situations you attract and become attracted to, 4) What meanings you assign to what happens. Then you often say something like, ‘Which is quite a lot’ !!!

    I do not get the connection between the two. How then to determine the difference between something we have attracted when if we were aware enough could have avoided and an effect which we had absolutely no control over.

    I want to believe that both you and I, genpo roshi and the kid next door are just as vulnerable to cause and effect as each other. But I do not….. I am sure you and genpo would wip cause and effects ass before me and the kid next door could even blink. ( I guess the answer is awareness? )

    If something ‘bad’ happens to someone, is it both not having enough awareness to avoid the situation? and at the same time being caught in the matrix of cause and effect? ( the effect being the ‘bad’ outcome in this situation )

    hmmmm, I guess the answer is become more aware, use holosync daily and study cause and effect. Any suggestions for cause and effect education and study?


    FROM BILL: Those things YOU create you COULD have a choice about, but only if you develop enough awareness to see how you are creating them. You don’t create earthquakes, or the sun, or the fact that you need air to survive, or what the other 7 billion people are doing (though you do have some influence on a few of them). You do, however, create how you feel, how you behave, which people and situations you attract or become attracted to, and what meanings you assign to what happens (these things come from something you do, inside your head, and the resulting actions you take).

    Since you create these four things, you can either create them unconsciously, outside your awareness, on autopilot, or consciously, with awareness of how you create them (ie, you see yourself create them, as you do it). Develop the awareness (my suggestion is to do this by using Holosync, though there are other ways(, and learn how to direct that awareness to what you are creating, as you create it (which is what I teach you how to do in my first Life Principles online course), and everything will be clear to you.

    Or, just take what comes from your non-conscious cognitive processes. I prefer choice.

  92. Ken says :

    Re: holosync 2.0

    Hi Bill,

    I got your emails and watched your video clip and am very interested in your new 2.0 product. I really like using your ‘super theta’ meditation cd in the morning before work as I find I get a flood of creative ideas.

    So as a theta enthusiast, does 2.0 spend like 15 min in theta total during the dive portion? I must say it would be very attractive to get my morning theta fix in one synergistic package.

    Thank you.

    FROM BILL: I don’t remember the exact number of minutes. Holosync 2.0 is well worth getting, though.

  93. Robin Christopher says :

    Dear Bill
    Would you make some comments, especially in terms of spiral dynamics, about the present “international leaderless revolution” or as it calls itself “Occupy Wall Street?”
    Thank you for sharing all of your wisdom. I have been listening to holosync for several yrs. and am on flowering 3……a different person than when i began………..Again, thank you……..robin

    FROM BILL: They are partly Green ( post-conventional, really ANTI-conventional, and unhealthy version of Green) and Red/Purple (pre-conventional). The two are sometimes mistken for each other because they are both against conventionality.

    The Occupy Wall Street group is not, however, leaderless. The whole movement is financed by George Soros-connected left-wing groups and is part of a Saul Alinsky “rules for Radicals” blueprint to create chaos and disorder. If you look at a list of the groups supporting OWS they are nearly all either communists, socialists, anarchists, or trade unionists.

    In terms of what I have said about social mood turning negative, this is to be expected. Just as the Tea Party represents conventional people who are mad, the OCW represents an-conventional people who are mad. In times of negative social mood nearly everyone eventually becomes angry, and radicals are happy to foment more of it and then run to the head of the parade. Fascists in Italy did this in the 1930s, as did the communists and Nazis in Germany and the Franco supporters in Spain (and, for that matter, communists and American Nazis in the US). Lenin called people like the OWS peoplke “useful idiots” because they were so easy to manipulate in service of the radical cause.

    I find it interesting that the OWS people are so disrespectful to the areas where they are camping, urinating and deficating in public, leaving garbage everywhere, drinking and taking drugs in public, throwing bottles and rocks at police, etc. I thought these people loved Gaia. They seem like immature, tantrum-throwing babies. When they speak they obviously have no idea what’s going on in the country other than the most simplistic “blame the rich” stance, which they have heard from the radical left. A sad state of affairs.

  94. Kevin says :

    Bill, I believe it is you who are making arguments that are fallacious. You present hard money economic theories held by a beleaguered minority of fringe scholars as if they were the revealed gospel. You support this with non-arguments that draw false equivalencies between concepts like regulation, central planning, and socialism and bravely confront straw men like your supposed bands of environmentalists who devote their careers to misrepresenting the numbers of trees.

    Having just read your series of posts in support of rational skepticism and the scientific method (“Giant asteroid causes extinction of magical thinkers,” et al.), it is dispiriting to see how quickly these principles fall by the wayside. But heck–believe what you want about macroeconomics, climate change, what have you.

    I guess this triggers me because I have placed a considerable amount of faith in Holosync and your theories of personal growth. Finding out that you endorse fringe social science and encourage your readers to take advice from Glenn Beck is a little like finding out that my mother secretly talks to space aliens and thinks I should buy a ticket on a UFO. Oh well. I will nurse my cognitive dissonance in my own corner, and meanwhile, as you ably point out, it’s your blog and you can continue to write what you want.

    FROM BILL: There’s nothing fringe about my economics. It’s just that the progressives have taken over academia and government, so what you see as “mainstream” is what formerly was radical. Try looking at Thomas Sowell, FA Hayak, Henry Hazlitt, Ludwig von Mises, and other great (and highly respected) economists. The people you admire got us into the state we’re in. I have thoroughly studied Das Capital (have you read it?) as well as von Mises’s great work Human Action (have you read it?). Have you read Thomas Sowell? I doubt it. Why don’t try putting a few facts on the table showing us all why huge debts and centralized control of the economy by a central bank has been a boon to the world? Which centralized and planned economy in the world is a an example of utopia? The freest and most prosperous places on earth are Hong Kong and Singapore. Both have free markets.

    Only someone with a skewed and limited education (or someone who has been utterly brainwashed) could see the Austrian School of Economics as “fringe.” And if you choose your personal growth tools based the the opinions of the person who owns the company that provides them, you have found a great way to sabotage yourself.

  95. Santiago says :

    Bill, any predictions for the coming elections ?

    FROM BILL: I would suspect that Obama will not be reelected, based on the fact that in times of negative social mood it is very difficult to be reelected. Everyone is angry and incumbents of any kind are unlikely to be reelected. A Republican President will be just as unable, however, to solve the problems. There is no solution to having spent yesterday’s, today’s, and tomorrow’s money other than to live on less–in this case, for a LONG time. Dark times are coming.

  96. rosario says :

    FROM BILL: It’s up to you. Some people keep listening, others don’t.

    dear bill,
    from your experience
    continuing to listen the holosync cd’s
    after we have completed the programm
    can add something more
    or is just a pleasure ?
    thank you.

    P.S: if you’ll discovery technology, more powerful of holosync, to expand our awareness, please let me know.
    thank you.

    FROM BILL: Holosync is always good for you.

  97. Brian B says :


    I have been reading and listening to Peter Schiff a lot lately. As you know, he is a free market economist like yourself, but his prediction for the future is completely opposite that of yourself. He is predicting hyperinflation and a devaluation of the dollar, whereas you are predicting deflation and a rise in value of the dollar, correct?

    His reasoning is that the US is sustaining its economy through borrowed money from other countries, which at this point we have no chance of paying off. Instead of saving or investing this money in productive capacities, we are just using it to consume imported goods. We are not providing any real value to the world; in fact, Schiff says we are a tax on the world, since we are just spending their money and not paying it back. Schiff predicts other countries like China will eventually “wise up” and stop lending us money, which will cause the value of the dollar to depreciate and hyperinflation to result. The world will be better off as a result since they will be able to spend their money on themselves.

    Could you comment on this reasoning at all? I know you’ve explained your rationale for deflation before (I plan on reading Prechter’s book soon), but how does that relate to the explanation given above. Do you think part of Schiff’s analysis is correct, but his overall conclusion is wrong?

    FROM BILL: I have commented on this at length at the end of other posts. In a nutshell, all debt is always repaid–either by the borrower or by the lender (ie, it is not paid, so the lender loses). After a loan for $10,000 is made, there is the original $10,000 and there is also the IOU for $10,000. If the borrower has good credit and the income to repay the load, the IOU is as good as cash and can be used to buy things. So now there is $20,000 where there was $10,000. Credit, in other words, increases the money supply. This is what causes price inflation, and has been going on since the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913.

    This inflation dramatically accelerated in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s, leaving us with huge debts and much higher prices. In the year 200 what once cost three cents cost $1.00. Money was degraded by 33x.

    To go back to the loan I describe above, if the borrower pays the loan back, the extra $10,000 disappears from the money supply. It also disappears if he goes to the borrower and tells him he can’t pay it back (in that case, his IOU becomes worthless). What is happening now is that huge amounts of debt–bonds (look at Greece, for instance), mortgages, pensions, many types of derivatives, and many other obligations–cannot be paid. At the same time, those who do have the income are paying off their debts (a wise move) and people are much more reluctant to take on new debt. In fact, banks have become very stingy about who they lend to.

    As all this previous debt is recognized as being unpayable, it disappears from the money supply, which DEFLATES the money supply. To try to stop this from happening, the Fed has been buying bad debt from the banks, paying them (with money they create out of thin air) the full face value of the debt, even though it is often worth a fraction of the face value (in other words, only a fraction of the borrowers have the ability to pay it back).

    What Schiff is wrong about (he is not, by the way, an economist, but rather a financial advisor–he is not sitting in a university theorizing, but is actually managing money for investors) is that the rate at which debt money will “go to money heaven” as it is eventually recognized as being unpayable is going to be hundreds or even thousands of times greater than any money the Fed can create to combat the deflation of the money supply. So far, they have injected (in the rounds of bailouts and “quantitative easing”) an amount of money equal to 1/7th of 1% of the total debt. What’s more, that money is sitting on the books of banks, and IS NOT BEING LENT. It is not entering the money supply.

    They are doing this to inject funds into the banks, but this time (they hope) BEFORE the next meltdown. It will, however, not be enough by a huge margin. When the deflation/deleveraging gets going in earnest it will be like a nuclear chain-reaction and nothing will stop it until all the worthless credit is purged from the system. It will be like a game of musical chairs where everyone needs a chair (ie, money) but there isn’t enough. So-called “assets” (debt instruments that people assume are the same as money/wealth, but aren’t) will be desperately sold to raise cash, but few will want to buy, which will mean that these “assets” will be shown for what they are: worthless. Cash will be king–but few will have any.

    So the flaw in Schiff’s argument is that deflation can happen so fast as in such a huge way that nothing the Fed can do will stop it–and with all the unpayable debt, this deflation is inevitable, and will be SERIOUS. Just when they want to inject money into the system no one will borrow it. Even now interests rates are poretty much zero, which means that credit is FREE (!) but still no one is borrowing.

    Get out of debt. Have some cash out of the system (ie, under the mattress).

  98. I’ve been reading an interesting book called “The Disappearing Spoon” by a chap called Sam Kean which is a light-hearted presentation of tales from the Periodic Table of elements and how it came to be so.

    In this book he gives an interesting explanation on something he calls Pathological Science where ambiguity about evidence is used as evidence to support (the pathological scientists) pet theory and deeper emotional attachment: the hope, the need, for something fantastic to be true.

    I’ve also read your World’s Greatest Teachers interview with Susanne Cook-Greuter on ego and developmental levels.

    Have you heard of the concept of Pathological Science? and do you believe given Modern Western Schooling Methods and General Cultural Upbringing that all of us have this capacity within us to have such pet theories or is it merely symptomatic of people existing within a particular pigeon-hole of an ego developmental level?

    I’m trying to broaden my own awareness and understanding rather than attach myself to anyone individuals interpretation and in so doing I wonder if I’m merely confused and kidding myself or whether we all have some greater life purpose that we are supposed to fullfil. I’m not so much fighting against “what is” as always finding myself rightly or wrongly in synchronicity with “what is” when I factor in my “scalability” that I mentioned previously and to me this still feels like a lack of choice -within my presumed lower developmental level, I’m stuck in a questioning mode rather than enjoying an experience mode (if that makes sense).

    FROM BILL: Science has always defended the prevailing view and resisted the newer view, until the evidence becomes so great (and the defenders become old and die), at which point there is a paradigm shift, and a new prevailing view. So yes, of course, resistance to new views is part of the process.

    I lost you on what you were saying at the end, but clearly you don’t have choice about a huge amount of what is going on in the universe. You do, though, have choice about the things YOU create (how you feel, how you behave, which people and situations you attract or become attracted to, and what meanings you assign to what happens) IF you are aware enough to see, as you do it, how you create these things.

    In times of positive social mood everything seems better (and as if it will keep getting better) and it seems as if you have more control. The big boom in personal growth programs of the 90s was fueled by the feeling that all things are (were) possible. Now, as social mood turns increasingly negative, people doubt that many things are possible and they feel much less control. The personal growth world, I believe, will become more of a fringe culture, and will probably become dominated by silly magical thinking (this has happened in other times of negative social mood).

    The best thing you can do is to acknowledge the human condition as it is, and to do everything you can to increase your awareness–which, IMO, means continuing to use Holosync.

  99. Zebbedee says :

    Hi Bill

    I have just seen your email about your participation in the upcoming series of talks at Worldwide Tipping Point (

    While this looks like a great series of talks I must admit I am confused as to how this squares with what you are telling us about negative social mood – and your own predictions about the economy based on that.

    To quote you from this blog:
    “Mark my words, there will be a depression in Canada in the coming years, just as there will be in the rest of the world.”
    “Personally, I think this may be of a similar degree to the fall of the Roman Empire.”

    Maybe I am jumping the gun and should wait for your talk in the series, but I can’t help wondering out loud: how is it possible to even suggest there could be a ‘world tipping point’ (or the possibility of a positive breakthrough in consciousness) within the current social mood trend?

    I deeply want to believe so, but the socionomics information you have presented has pretty much convinced me that any such optimism is in fact groundless right now (ie nothing is really going to change what’s happening, we just have to go through the pain of a massive social mood decline as best we can.)

    By the way, thanks for this blog, it’s been a trip so far.



    FROM BILL: Well, I’ll tell you that when I was approached for that interview I told them that I wasn’t going to say what they were looking for (my assumption being that the “tipping point”, to them, is the ushering in of some sort of golden age). So, as talked about the changes in social mood. I’m sure it will piss everyone off, since most people don’t want accuracy, they want to be told what they want to hear.

  100. bob says :

    ty Santiago that was/is a great read :)

  101. Ed Clark says :

    Off topic question. My apologies. I was wondering about witnessing. Is it possible to think and witness at the same time. Are they mutually exclusive. As example, Is it possible to watch myself do a difficult math problem (be engrossed in the math problem and observe myself doing it) or watch my internal responses that i may be having about the problem or my surroundings as i am doing the problem. That is just an example because i notice if i am thinking about something, anything i have problems witnessing as they are occuring only after they have occured. I have been working at this for several years and still have not been able to witness my thought processes as they occur. I thought you said somwhere in these blogs that witnessing or “the witness” is basically a form of thinking and if that is the case how do we think 2 things at the same time. I thought that was impossible. Bill i am sorry if this had been addressed or i just don’t get it but it has been a source of confusion for me. Thanks Ed

    FROM BILL: It takes two things: 1) awareness (use Holosync to get more) and 2) practice.

  102. What is Holosync 2.0?

    FROM BILL: Log in to the participants section of the website and you can read all about it (unless you are in the Inner Circle–I’m not sure what you see today if you log in). Or, call us.

  103. Ken says :

    Thanks for the info about holosync 2.0 with the added theta.

    To clarify, I actually don’t care about the exact number of minutes spent in theta. I was just trying to determine if 2.0 offered participants enough theta to replace super theta listening time.

    On a related topic, can you consider making a 60 min theta cd with a dive and immersion portion? This would allow people to listen longer than 30 min at a time if they wanted. I think it would sell well. I’d buy it. I mentioned it to Gilson several months back so it probably hasn’t made it’s way to your desk yet. (Only kidding. Marc’s a great guy.)

    FROM BILL: Yes, the Holosync 2.0 has enough theta to substitute for the SuperTheta. If you want more theta, listen to the SuperTheta for as long as you want.

  104. Ken says :

    I have Thomas Sowell’s “A Conflict of Visions” on a bookshelf nearby. It discusses the ideological origins of political struggles in a thoughtful, well reasoned way. For those looking to understand more about what’s going on today, I’d highly recommend it.

    FROM BILL: Yes, Sowell is very smart and explains things in an easy to understand way. And the left hates him because he dismantles their silly views.

  105. Santiago says :

    Bill a question on free markets, what happens with things like BP’s oil spil ? in a free market could they just move their equipement some place else and leave it like that ? without regulations how can the market prevent such events ?

    FROM BILL: Would that be good for business if they did that? Walking away from something like that would put a company out of business, don’t you think? You have been listening to the anti-capitalists too much. Why these assumptions that businesses are just out to fuck people? Business succeed by creating value for people.

  106. Santiago says :

    Oh and another one. We know that pharmaceuticals spend huge amounts of money on research because of the profit earned by the patents. Is the patent system a regulation process ? if there is no patent regulation and every pharmaceutical can copy and sell the original design of the drug (without having to invest on the research) what would be the incentive to do medical research ?

    FROM BILL: Patents are a legitimate role of government–to protect the private property, in this case of an inventor. Without that protection who would want to risk millions of dollars to create something new? It would be the law of the jungle.

  107. Ganesh says :

    Hi Bill, I just saw an interesting video about how women are portrayed in the media as just as sex objects and that that message makes them feel powerless at a young age and that explains why there are so few women in high positions, when compared to men. Are the businesses that put out this media, to blame for this?

    FROM BILL: Men ARE interested in women because of their sexiness. It’s build into men biologically. Women are interested in men who are powerful. That is also build into humans biologically. Women also are less likely to be in positions of power because they have a biological urge to have children, and it’s very difficult (though not impossible) to run a company or hold a major political office and be a mother. And, women are naturally less aggressive than men, on average, and less interested in power. Unfortunately, some have made these two in-born tendencies of men and women into something sinister. Men have some advantages over women; women have some advantages over men. There is nothing sinister about it. Demagogues, however, are always looking for some way to make someone a victim and someone else the source of evil. Then they can manipulate things for their own purposes.

  108. rosario says :

    dear bill,
    all the teaching you are giving to us
    is for the ego (the voice in our head) ?
    to let the ego become aware of itself and what it does,
    to stop its resistence
    letting awareness emerge ?
    thank you.

    FROM BILL: I’ll let what I have taught speak for itself. Why would you try to summarize it (incorrectly) and then ask me if it is correct?

  109. Chris M says :

    I found this funny. Watching it now.

    “Applying Economics to American History”!

    I have a few questions that relate somewhat. All things may be interconnected. Concerning ideas, this can be quite complex, with all sorts of behaviors and emotions that modify action. You have presented libertarian ideas in a appealing light. Reality may be less important than ‘motivation’ for (certain individuals), however, for example, are people not different when food-deprived, for example? and if so, do you see people being given food stamps by governments as a cornerstone limiting factor for personal improvement? (i.e, governments provide, therefore they are providers.) This idea seems to contrast with that of governments causing suffering, and you wanting to reduce suffering. You use statistics, or ‘real’ examples to express how libertarianism is, however feeding the hungry right now (such as what govt. do) is certainly more real than using affirmative libertarian concepts to predict the future. Surely feeding the hungry at the cost of inefficiently taxing those who have more than they require to be physically healthy reduces more suffering on a real (neuro-biological) level, or does it? There’s one thing that’s not particularly life-affirming from a certain perspective, and that is how a starving person might not be able to crawl around to provide enough value to provide anyone in a libertarian society with enough value, after all, machines are far more effective than people (unless you’re looking for prostitutes, I guess, or it’s far in the future) This leads back to how the human condition cannot be avoided (without dying). In a libertarian society, is life not cheap? With a govt providing minimum wage, for example, life (or the products of, which are pretty much the same thing as far as a free market is concerned) is worth more. Inheritance could be considered stagnation. Would anyone in this generation prefer these consequences?

    How do you think these ‘entitlement’-cast people (protestors, etc.) will eventually become motivated to improve themselves. How do you think this could be facilitated? (This is more a personal question, this has practical use to me. -[gosh I’m sneaky].)

    FROM BILL: Giving things to people reduces their motivation to take care of themselves. Trust me, only a small portion of those on food stamps are actually unable to take care of themselves. The government is actually ADVERTISING to find food stamp recipients. Progressives want more and more people to be dependent on the government. This gives the government more power. You might notice those those on government assistance never seem to get off that assistance, and never seem to move up the income scale. They have no motivation to take care of themselves.

    Of course there are some people who really cannot take care of themselves. The question is, then, who is the best one to take care of them? Is it the government? I don’t think so. Anything centrally controlled has less feedback regarding whatever it is doing, and is therefore less effective. The government gives out food stamps based on certain rules. However, no set of rules can handle all circumstances, which is why millions of people who are otherwise able bodied are getting food stamps when they shouldn’t. Families should take care of people who cannot take care of themselves. Failing that, private charities should. I am heavily involved in a number of private charities. I see up close how much more efficient and flexible private charities are in helping people. Whatever the government does, it does it less effectively, more expensively, and with more corruption.

  110. Santiago says :

    Yes Bill, you got me all wrong, I am all for capitalism, that’s why I ask the questions, so I can better understand it (and defend it)

    I just don’t see how that would put a company out of business in a free market. Help me see what is the incentive for BP not to walk away. It costs a lot of money to clean up. Would people stop buying what BP produces because of the spil ? Why would someone in Asia stop buying from BP because of an oil spil that happend thousands of miles away ? I know it does a lot of harm to BP’s corporate image and that such damage hurts their profits since it stops the production, but once the damage is done why would they want to clean up? if they still manage to sell what they sell at a low price (by not spending money on cleaning up) why would people stop buying from them ?

    I guess this is crystal clear for you, but I’m pretty slow in getting this things.

    FROM BILL: Oil companies a) depend on their reputation just like any other company, b) have millions (billions?) invested in the equipment and infrastructure involved in drilling for oil. It is in their interest to clean up, just as a supermarket would clean up if their store was trashed; c) there are laws about this that the oil companies have to follow. I am not advocating lawlessness. The role of government is to protect the sanctity of contracts as well as private property. This includes property that is held in common, such as oceans.

    Your question is based on the premise put forward (over and over and over, based on the idea that a lie repeated endlessly is finally believed, not unlike the Nazi statement about Jews being vermin and the cause of the German peoples’ problems) that corporations are evil, greedy, etc. Corporations exist to make products or provide services. They succeed when those products and services are such that consumers buy them. They fail when what they offer is not wanted. The only exception to this is when corporations are in collusion with BIG government, who gives them advantages other companies don’t have. This can only happen when there is a centralization of power such as we now have with our bloated, giant government. Without this power, corporations would have to sink or swim based on their ability to meet the needs of their customers. Trim the size of government (to about 5% if what it is now) and the world will improve in ways that will amaze you.

  111. Dennis says :


    Do you believe in God?

    FROM BILL: I’m not sure I understand your question. Tell me exactly what it is that I would believe in. And what reason would I have for believing in it? (I’m serious.)

  112. rosario says :

    FROM BILL: I’ll let what I have taught speak for itself. Why would you try to summarize it (incorrectly) and then ask me if it is correct?

    dear bill,
    my question was not about your teaching.
    my question was about “who” is learning this teaching.
    the “who” is the ego (voice in our heads) ?
    thank you.

    FROM BILL: Is that who you are? The voice in your head? Why don’t you LOOK for “who” is learning and find out who is learning by looking for that one. Look everywhere until you find it. Then you can tell me who is who and where that who is.

  113. Joel says :


    What if we have saved money in an account, with a secure company like everbank? Why would it still be necessary to have ‘money under the mattress’ ?

    I want to understand what will happen to our normal savings and bank accounts over the next few years! Will we simply not be able to withdraw any money? will our savings disappear?

    How extreme are you suggesting we go for this ‘under the mattress’ thing? Is it even worth having savings accounts? or should any savings go straight under the mattress?

    I just can not picture a multimillionaire storing all his cash outside of the bank in some giant volt or ‘under the mattress’! What will mr multimillionaire do to manage his money?

    I am reading a lot, and learning fast about many many topics you have encouraged us to study! but not fast enough, I really want to get on top of my finances, have a good understanding of how to manage, save and invest my money. ( even if that includes having cash under the mattress ) Especially as we are all plummeting down the cliff face and fast!

    I want to educate myself smartly and fast as I know things are going down fast. I want to be one of the few on top of it all ( as best I can be ), someone who is able to help those around me to do the same.

    Where do I / we begin ? find a competent financial advisor? Maybe you could consider doing a post purely on finances and setting your self up for the coming crash! As having money or not I think is going to be quite important in terms of what we will be able to do!!!

    I am prepared to do the work and research myself. I just want to be pointed in the right direction. You say have some money out of the bank ‘literally’ sure ok!! I will do it ( but how much? all our money? a percentage? ), but what about having some money in the bank, in savings? what about keeping up investments and following the guys you recommend to make a few bucks with negative social mood?

    Like I said, I am prepared and want to do all the research myself. I know that is not your job to spoon feed us. I know you encourage us to make our own decisions, learn for ourselves and I agree completely. I just do not know where to begin! I want to have accounts with banks that will be stable over the coming years! I guess my goal is to educate myself to have a good understanding of finances and how to manage them over the years to come ( especially these next long years that are upon us ) Do I begin with a financial advisor?, a website that offers advice? Thats why I thought maybe a post would be cool, giving a few tips, and references to look up…. kind of a post to help us educate ourselves for negative social mood financial stability and awareness. !!!

    thanks always Bill

    FROM BILL: Have you read my other posts? I have given quite a few refereneces. I have suggested a number of financial newsletters in my last few posts (and a number of books) that you could and should subscribe to/read. Warning: the really good newsletters are expensive, though there is some good info that is free. Most of it, however, isn’t specific about exactly what to do with your money.

    What will you do if the banking system is closed for a time? This would include Everbank, by the way, since it is a regular old bank–though one with a much more enlightened philosophy in terms of debt. It is very possible that there could be a banking holiday while the crooks–oops, I mean government and banking officials–reorganize things to make it look as if things are “okay.”

    And, even if that doesn’t happen, anything you have in Everbank that happens to be someone else’s debt is questionable (ie, it might not be repaid). Most people assume that debt instruments are as good as cash. In this environment, they are not. In fact, money in Everbank is owed to you, by Everbank. What if they can’t pay? They are probably more likely to pay than some other banks, but not if the entire system is shut down for a reboot (a reboot that will likely be a boot up the ass of depositors, and through no fault of Everbank [I have an account there, too, but only for a small part of my funds]).

    Some millionaires ARE putting their money, IN CASH, in vaults (not bank vaults, though)–sometimes lots of it. And, in gold, also in vaults that are not bank vaults. In this era seeking a return ON your money is ill-advised. Returns of any significant amount carry even more significant risk. Smart people want a return OF their money. Money under your mattress will still be there if the banking system takes a poop–though you will have to keep it safe somehow.

  114. Dennis says :

    Bill, (do you believe in God)

    I understand what you mean. When I was younger, I remember being scared to NOT believe in God, although I do not come from a particularly religious family.

    As I have matured, I have seen no evidence whatsoever to come to any conclusion that God exists at all, but that is merely a comforting idea to have some kind of an ‘insurance policy’ for when we die.

    After all, if there is a God, he appears to have got away with some pretty outrageous stuff over the years eh?

  115. @Ed and anyone else looking for ways to reinterprete there current model of reality and get a better grasp of the subconscious mind, this method has to be practiced regularly but has certainly helped myself in opening up my mind and re-evaluating my model of reality.

    Here is a little psychological game I used to play to reinterprete my thought processes in relation to my poetry or indeed the wider World.

    I use my poetry because they’re quite short verses and easy to practice this thinking with. So here’s the poem published here on the 18th October 2011.

    When I’m feeling most powerless in power,
    and objections scream and plague at my mind,
    I turn to a simple trick I learned,
    A trick I like to call the double-bind,
    Whether or not I want to heal and prosper,
    or do not want to heal and prosper here right now,
    in double-binding my subconscious intentions,
    I bypass thoughts that normally worry me,
    A clear direction is then set,
    I can say this is what I want,
    The Universe can fulfill a wish,
    When you write and bind the future you intend.

    and here’s my little psychological game,
    1. Count the amount of letters in each word.
    2. Write down the letter at position count.(I include spaces in my method)
    3. Write down the 1st letter of each word at position count
    4. See what new words and thought processes can be formed from the given letters. Check headlines, sports scores, the wider worlds news headlines to see if my subconscious relates to this incoming information in any way shape or form.

    This is in no way a substitute or replacement for Holosync or other healing modalities but it does and has helped me reinterpret or rethink my belief system. (This blog auto justification may knock the numbers & lettering out of the positions they would be in but theres enough here to get the idea, it’s a sort of “as above, so below” methodology).

    When I’m feeling most powerless in power,
    4 1 1 7 4 9 2 5
    n W W ‘ n h
    f W W i f W I m

    and objections scream and plague at my mind,
    3 10 6 3 6 2 2 4
    d t b d b n n
    s o a s a o o a

    I turn to a simple trick I learned,
    1 4 2 1 6 5 1 7
    I u I n r I
    I a t I t s I I

    A trick I like to call the double-bind,
    1 5 1 4 2 4 3 6 4
    A i A r r t c r
    A t A l t l I c l

    Whether or not I want to heal and prosper,
    7 2 3 1 4 2 4 3 7
    r h e W t h t e r
    h o n W I o I n h

    or do not want to heal and prosper here right now,
    2 2 3 4 2 4 3 7 4 5 3
    r r d r d n d o
    d d n w d w n a w t n

    in double-binding my subconscious intentions,
    2 6 7 2 12 10
    n u b n i –
    d i i d i m

    I bypass thoughts that normally worry me,
    1 6 8 4 8 5 2
    I a s y s p
    I w I t I n b

    A clear direction is then set,
    1 5 9 2 4 3
    A e d l c
    A t d c i d

    I can say this is what I want,
    1 3 3 4 2 4 1 4
    I c c a a I a
    I s s t c t I t

    The Universe can fulfill a wish,
    3 8 3 7 1 4
    e v e i T
    c U c T T f

    When you write and bind the future it intends
    4 3 5 3 4 3 6 2 7
    n e e n e y h o
    a w b w a w t y f

    This is potentially a form of magical thinking but I prefer to think of it as a learning tool, and in that respect any word based games are excellent sources of learning IMO.

    FROM BILL: Potentially?

  116. Theobromine says :

    Steve Jobs said something about creating the things people will want before they know they want them. That type of creativity is never (rarely) seen in command economies. People are giving up alot of their resources for things that did not even exist 10 years ago!! Ipads and iphones and ipods oh my! The free market is still alive and well in America and we have a HUGE advantage that we have to keep and promote to survive the coming decades. Creativity!
    PS My farmer friends are fond of reminding me that it takes a gallon of diesel fuel to make a gallon of ethanol. That’s economic planning (meddling) for you. With the requirement for 10% ethanol we have priced corn so high are Dairy and Beef industries are ratcheting up food inflation. Crop farmers can’t afford to plant anything else but corn to meet the ethanol demand and make money. Vegetables have increased due to lower supply. Food and gas are now in competition. Change the ethanol requirement law. It is now making gas MORE expensive. Those brilliant minds in Congress need to stick to their knitting and stay out of businesses they know nothing about. They need to vote themselves more vacations and stay home.
    PPS Biofuels – trees, corn and other biofuels are just another crop and can be managed responsibly without government interference.

  117. Santiago says :

    Bill what’s your take on Ron Paul ?

    FROM BILL: I like a lot of what he says. I think he takes the isolationism too far. The last time we were severely isolationist, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on us, and we were unprepared. This doesn’t mean we have to have troops stationed in so many places, but I suspect there is a middle ground.

  118. ron says :

    Ron Paul flashes masonic handshakes and cornuti hand signs, what does that tell you?! Do you still want to like him?

    The truth of things is not acceptable, so we say that we like what the asshole says, when in fact he’s owned by the dark side as well as all the other motherfuckers (obama, bush and co).

    FROM BILL: Oh, please. The Masonic handshake is your evidence of this?

  119. FROM BILL: Potentially?

    As Bob Proctor wrote in a recent email “Believing is Seeing”, and all beliefs and perspectives come from within each of us as individuals, to someone higher on the mountain, people like yourself, Richard Martin, and other long term Holosync users you may regard such things in a scientific mindset or as strange explainable abberations, or point a finger and say ‘he’s seeing what his own belief system is set up to see’, whilst people lower down the mountain may regard such thinking as magic until they themselves try and test it on there own written language, words and thinking, at which point they themselves may move slightly higher up the mountain, assimilate it into they’re own individual thought processes or indeed dismiss it in favour of alternate “what works for me” processes. I’ve provided a potential way for people to empty there cups or reinterpret the written word and how they see the World but unlike yourself I currently don’t have a – keep the money circulating Wealth Mindset that perhaps many of your Business Leaders users do have, so I have personal growth issues and multiple interactions on your blog here are hopefully taking me towards that goal of also being higher up the mountain an finding financial security mindset et al.

    FROM BILL: Nothing that happens in the world has the slightest thing to do with numerology.

  120. The Buddhist Cowboy says :

    Bill, what’s your opinion on NPR as a news source? Also, your thoughts on the economic theories of Harry S. Dent? I know many like to slam him but He seems to have projected a lot of what your talking about long ago.

    FROM BILL: NPR is a progressive news source, leaning quite a bit to the left, in favor of big government, centralized control, “social justice”, etc. I would not rely on NPR other than as a source of what the left is saying.

    Dent is a proponent of cycles as a predictive tool. He sees an economic depression in our future, as do I. I am not that familiar with the specifics of what he is all about, however.

  121. Ken says :


    I surfed over to your facebook page yesterday and reviewed the comments. One idea that might help what sounds like a cust svc issue regarding the higher volume of current questions.

    Have your tech guy setup an automatic responder email that says their email was received and the current wait time is X. You can change the wait time for accuracy. This way, people would get an immediate response with an eta and simultaneously verify they have the correct email address.

    If you do this, you can add a message above the link to email you for participants that they will get an immediate email back to verify they input the correct email. And if they don’t they should call. This would avoid people waiting 3 months for a reply when they emailed the wrong place.

    Hope this suggestion helps!

    FROM BILL: Literally 99.5% of these complaints involve a mistake the customer is making in trying to contact us, or our mail going into their spam box, or our never receiving the email they send. We respond to emails within 24 hours of receiving them (one business day). Once in a while, for bizarre reasons, an ISP blacklists us, assuming that the customer did not want to hear from us, so they don’t deliver our mail.

  122. carlos says :


    Do you think MOST big ,powerful corporations are “in bed” with big government or do you think only A FEW are?

    It makes sense to me that most of them would try to get “the benefits” of getting into an alliance with big governments if they can.


    FROM BILL: Where power is, others will chase it. Get rid of the huge power of government and the corporations will have to stand on their merits. Sadly, this will probably not happen in our lifetime.

  123. Santiago says :

    Bill who’s the least worst candidate for the coming election ?

    FROM BILL: The problem is that nothing can be done about the problems in the world, other than not make them worse. The best candidate is the one that will get out of the way and let the bankruptcy run its course. Those who think the government can manage the crisis are deluded.

  124. Charlie says :

    It is obvious that you do not know much about the lumber industry. Yes there may be more trees which will remove a small amount of CO2 and return a small amount of Oxygen to he environment. (the truth is the ocean created almost 90% of our oxygen and removes a large amount of carbon dioxide) There are very few furniture grade or veneer grade trees to harvest. There is plenty of wood for paper and boxes. Quality wood is becoming scarce. I grow so tired of people trivializing such complex issues. This is the same kind of reduction argumentation used by the right to lifer’s and the anti-evolutionist, based on some fact and a lot of hype!

    FROM BILL: well, you have certainly trivialized the subject, with a response measuring about 100 words with no proof offered that I don’t know anything, or that you do.

  125. Ken says :

    Re: Tipping Point project

    I listened to KW’s interview. I don’t know if you listened to it yet. I’m assuming not. It was a combination of a recap of his stages of development with something I hadn’t heard before.

    He said once a civilization has 10% of it’s population reach a higher stage, the entire civilization moves up one stage as its new center of gravity. He used the founding fathers as an example who were a full developmental stage ahead of the populace when they wrote the Dec of Independence which was nevertheless accepted by the populace. He believes that at some point over the next 10 years in the US, 10% of the populace with be at the integral stage and another stage shift will occur. He said the last time this happened was the “60s revolution” which actually occurred in the 70s.

    I found his theory of 10% being the tipping point as interesting and also that the next shift would occur in the US within 10 years. Any thoughts about this?

    FROM BILL: Ken has been saying this for some time. I think he’s missing a few pieces of the puzzle, however. Certainly over the centuries the number of people at a certain developmental level changes, and when enough people reach a certain stage, the “center of gravity” (I guess that means the preponderence of those who are ruling the society and setting/influencing it’s mores, memes, and rules) does change to a “higher” level. A higher level means, in general, a broader, more inclusive perspective. However, there can be problems (which Ken has acknowleged before, but perhaps isn’t acknowledging now–I didn’t hear the interview).

    There is no evidence I know of that a certain percentage defines when that will happen, that there is any actually data about such a number, or how anyone would even know what number of people are at a certain developmental level. His 10% is a wild, though partially educated, guess. You can to some degree see which developmental level the political leaders, educational/academic establishment, artistic community, and news media are at (in general), because what they do or say is more visible. These are, for Wilber, those who constitute the “center of gravity.” However, there is no way I know of to actually put a number on it, nor is there any evidence that a certain number constitutes a tipping point (and, as I think about it, if I was going to speculate about such a number, I would think that it would be a Fibonnaci number percentage, which would rule out 10%).

    Though I think the whole subject of developmental levels is very important and very helpful in looking at individuals and at society as a whole, in my opinion there is much more going on here, which is one reason why I have written about social mood in my last several posts. Rising and falling waves of positive and negative social mood are not being taken into account in this “tipping point” business. (I might add that I was asked to–and did–speak to the United Nations Values Caucus about such developmental levels in 2003, so I know a bit about it.)

    So here’s something I don’t think Wilber is aware of–something I think is quite important: These different developmental levels act/express in certain ways in times of positive social mood, and in other ways in times of negative social mood. What people like Wilber look for as a tipping point may very well be a tipping point into something quite dark. Whether we’re looking at “healthy” vs “unhealthy” expressions of each developmental level (something Wilber and other developmental theorists have discussed at length) are equally as important as WHAT developmental level.

    A broader and more inclusive perspective is a good thing, but the unhealthy version of a given developmental level is often unhealthy because it has disowned certain parts of its new perspective, aspects that were a useful and healthy part of the previous developmental level (an simple example of this is the 60s youth revolution disowning rules, law and order, etc–and, by golly, aren’t we seeing that in the OWS people today? Hmmm.).

    So, let’s look for a moment at the Occupy Wall Street people. They are not “more inclusive” despite their talk of being the “99%”. They are doing what people do in times of negative social mood–finding someone to demonize. Then, demogogues race to the head of the parade (in this case, socialist, anarchists, communists, etc.) and say, “Yes, there is an enemy, and we must crush him. Follow us to freedom!” Look at the freedom the German people experienced when this happened to them in the 1930s. Or the Russian people after 1917. Or the Cuban people after 1959. Or the Chinese..or the Venezuelans..or the North Koreans…or…

    Lenin (it is alleged) called such people “useful idiots” because they were young, inexperienced, naive, willing to be vocal and violent and take risks, and were easily led and manipulated. Then, the demogogues use the situation to gain (they hope) power.

    I am not saying that the OWS people don’t have a point in that there HAS been a collusion between Big Government and multinational corporations and banks. However, their interpretation of how and why that came about, and what to do about it, is incredibly naive–in fact, almost infantile. These people do not have an understanding of history, or how the financial system works, what role Wall Street plays in their ability to live the lifestyle they are accustomed to, nor do they know anything about social mood, or about most other bits of relevant information and wisdom. And look at how socially retarded these people are–rapes, crime, filth, no reverence in practice for the Gaia they claim to revere, etc.

    And, if what these people say they want actually came about (and it might, unfortunately) it would change our society in a way that would send us into a dark age that will last for many decades, if not longer. Some tipping point.

    In its unhealthy form, even a “higher” developmental level can–and historically has–done horrible things to those they demonize. This is not a tipping point I’m looking forward to.

  126. Charlie how do you define anti-evolutionist? When I was in school the text books all had a “”Neanderthal”” carbon-dated ancient man’s skull that had long since been proven to have been the skull of a pig, when I pointed that out to the teacher he wasn’t the least bit impressed because all school teaching and the syllabus is what has to be adhered to however wrong the syllabus is, that is a huge huge floor for “Honest-Dave-Perkins” types because it effectively forces kids to have to lie in order to pass exams, many kids know information instinctively to be right or wrong and schooling grooms it out of them in favour of slave to the syllabus teaching. When the under-pinnings are wrong you are at a disadvantage, when the underpinnings are nearer to that of the individual’s natural abililities, scope and awareness they can begin to excel.

    Bill 2 questions – In his book Musicophilia Oliver Sacks mentioned the work of a Polish neurophysiologist Jerzy Konorski and his 1967 paper “Integrative Activities of the Brain” are you familar with this guys work and do you know of anyone who has built upon his theories which are now apparently being shown to be sound?

    In that same book Oliver Sacks wrote much about a condition known as synesthesia – the combining of senses (example – people see music in colours) that is far more prevalent in society than first thought, I know I can reference taste touch sight sound smell and use combinations of the senses in my writings for stronger effect in the same way as advertisers, the more senses triggered the greater the chance of a sale, but I don’t actually think I have the condition. I’m thinking that listening to Alpha, Beta, Theta, Delta, Gamma waves as regularly as I do is likely giving me a super-synesthesia of Alpha-Beta-Theta-Delta-Gamma waves, Do you own or have any individual or deeper case studies of the synesthesiatic effects of listening to Alpha-Beta-Theta-Delta-Gamma Waves regularly?

    FROM BILL: Synesthesia doesn’t have anything to do with somehow combining brain waves. It has to do with combining internal representations of sensory experiences.

    When you use Holosync your brain develops the ability to move from state to state more easily. A different animal.

  127. Carlos says :


    Why and How the collusion between big government and multinational corporations came about?


    FROM BILL: Wanting power is part of the nature of human beings.

  128. A. says :

    Hi Bill,

    I should be working right now but I totally got absorbed in this awesome discourse. To those who are leaving Centrepointe due to the confrontations of this blog, I wonder whether you have forgotten the results you’ve received from Holosync? I don’t really give a shit if Holosync is brainwashing me, its better than being depressed and anxious all the time.

    Bill I don’t have anything of juice to add on this topic (due to an acknowledged lack of knowledge) but I’d like to know if you could: what’s the difference between awareness and knowledge? If I spend 10 years completing the Holosync course and emerge one morning with my eyes completely unglazed and see the truth of it all – could I get to that state by burying myself in the library for 10 years too? Are they two paths to the same conclusion or do they have different conclusions?

    Basically what I’m asking is: What’s more important? Building awareness through meditation or building knowledge through study?

    FROM BILL: What is important is an individual choice. There is no giant tablet in the sky that lists what is most important, what is next important, and so on. What is important is up to you.

    Awareness and knowledge are the the same. Awareness is the ability to see how you do or create something. You could ABOUT something with having enough awareness to see how you do it. Many people know they overeat, but they don’t see what they do cognitively that creates the motivation to keep eating, or to eat unhealthy things. Because it is happening outside their awareness, it is not a choice. Awareness creates choice. Knowing about something is obviously useful. Since seeing how you do something, as you do it, creates choice, it is also very useful. Luckily, you don’t have to choose between them. Why not become aware AND knowledgeable?

  129. Ken says :

    Bill, wow, thanks for an amazing reply. Super insightful. You have enough for the outline of a book if you wanted. Here are some working titles for you:

    “Tipping Point … but into what?”
    “Occupy Wall St has nothing to do with Wall St”
    “Gloria Allred is really a man. That’s a wig baby. Yea!”

  130. Paul Cowan says :

    After being alerted into the debt crisis by this blog and doing my own research, I honestly do not understand how the game is still going. This thing should have collapsed years ago. Every Western country or is it every country has more debt that it can ever pay. I mean there is 0% chance that the debt will ever be repaid. I read somewhere recently that no country has ever repaid its debt which made me laugh. That statistic seems even less likely to be broken now.

    The banks are insolvent and have astronomical amounts of derivatives on their books that they count as assets. The federal reserve is taking on a lot of these derivatives, for example it just took on $79 trillion dollars of derivatives from JP Morgan which is now guaranteed by the FDIC. This is hilarious when you realise that the GDP of America is $13 trillion.

    Derivatives and banking deregulation seem to be a major cause of the world’s chaos but as the banks are now funding most governments, that aint likely to change any time soon. Also banks being allowed to over leverage on these assets is another mad, mad, mad thing.

    The figures just stop making sense after a while because the sums are so vast. The EURO can never work and they call it bailing out the countries when in fact they are just bailing out the banks. Trying to cure incurable debt with more debt is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of but that is what they are doing with the vampire like IMF waiting to come in and suck blood.

    I have started to laugh at the absurdity of it all. It is the most insane thing, the lunatics really have taken over the asylum and this thing can only have a massive crash landing.

    All this austerity will kill any chance of any growth and only succeed in population reduction. I am not saying that is the goal but its only possible outcome.

    If you ask me, it is every man for himself and independence of everything (not sure how practical that is) is your best chance of surviving. I want to move myself and my family out of the UK because this place is spent. Massive benefit society and they won’t even give us a vote about being part of the EU. I’m thinking austraila. But thinking for yourself, deciding for yourself and fending for yourself are what will give you the best chances in the coming years.

    Even owning gold can backfire as they might make it illegal to own it or come up with some 90% crazy tax if they ever do the sensible thing and move away from a Fiat currency.

    I burst out laughing when I heard one ‘expert’ saying that what the bank of England should do is print a trillion pounds and buy up all government debt. That probably sounded good to the weimar republic in 1923.

    I have honestly started to laugh at were we are because I might cry if I did not.

    FROM BILL: Well expressed (though I disagree that banking deregulation was the culprit–actually, banking regulations (the Frank/Dodd bill in particular) actuall mandated that loans to people who had no ability to pay MUST be made).

    This situation, and my not wanting to let all those who follow what I say go down with the ship, is why I wrote the “Going to Hell in a Handbasket” posts–to alert people that this is happening, and more, to put it into context. This is happening because during the topping process of hugely POSITIVE social mood, during the 1990s and for a few years after, people became so positive that they were willing to take ANY risk, to leverage everything to the hilt, to spend money today that was to be made well off into the future because it was such a sure thing that it would be made.

    Now that the future is here, and social mood, having peaked a few years ago (having been THE greatest, highest, most positive social mood ever), is going DOWN, the stupidiy of all this debt is becoming clear, and the fact that it can never be paid is becoming clear. For a while the banks and governments will hide the real value of these debt instruments (most of which are completely worthless) and inflated hard assets (such as homes and other real estate, as well as companies/stocks, which are worth a fraction of what they are said to be worth). Because hardly any of these assets are being sold (no one has the money to buy them, and buying them seems quite risky to people) their true worth is concealed. Once people get desperate enough for cash that they dump them at any price, the prices will plummet.

    Interestingly, “every man for himself” is the motto of periods of negative social mood. In times of positive social mood everyone wants to have a group hug and help each other (for instance, the European Union). Now, things will go the other way, finally ending in a huge war. Personally, I think that on a local level we should all create alliances with friends, family, neighbors, etc., because we will need each other as things get worse. I do agree that being as independent of “the system” as possible is a good idea. Have some stored food, have cash not in a bank, have a way to store some water, have transportation that doesn’t require gasoline or electricity, etc, etc.

  131. A. says :

    Thanks Bill, I will.

  132. Ed Clark says :

    I assume you meant knowledge and awareness are NOT the same? That being said could you tell me what is the difference between awareness and mindfulness? Thanks Ed

    FROM BILL: Mindfulness is a term certain Buddhists use to describe what I mean by awareness, though I don’t often hear any of them applying it to the practical things I’m talking about. They are using it as a way to enter a transcendent state, which certainly can happen. There are two sides to that coin, though. Many sects are overly focused (IMO) on the transcendent because they think it is the way to escape from suffering.

    In Zen, or at least in the kind of Zen I am experiencing (since it really isn’t a theory or dogma I am using the word “experience”) the transcendent is important, but so is the relative world. In fact, once you have established yourself in the transcendent, you have come down from the mountain top to live in the real world.

    In fact, there is no escape from the real world and the various problems of being human, despite what some of the fans of “mindfulness” seem to think. So I am also applying awareness to the aspects of your life that YOU create: 1) how you feel, 2) how you behave, 3) which people and situations you attract or become attracted to, and 4) what meanings you assign to what happens. All these things CAN be a choice–to the extent that you are aware enough to see yourself create them, as you do it (they are created, or generated, by certain cognitive events you usually do outside your awareness, which is why these four things usually seem to “just happen”).

    Awareness creates choice, and the supreme spiritual maturity comes when you are able to CHOOSE how you create those four things.

    The human condition contains MANY things you have no control over: the physical processes of the universe (the sun, gravity, that you need food, warmth, air, etc), what the other 7 billion people do, which will often be at cross-purposes with what you want (you may have noticed this), and the fact that everything in this universe is impermanent and eventually ends, or falls apart, including everything you are attached to–including yourself.

    Because of this, you don’t get what you want a fair amount of time, or you get what you don’t want. Even when you do get what you want, it is impermanent. For this reason, humans suffer. Spiritual maturity isn’t escaping from suffering, because you can’t. It is in CHOOSING your suffering–going into each situation with awareness (ie, choice), knowing the consequences.

    Or, without awareness, you can just blunder into whatever suffering that happens, without choice, always been disappointed and blindsided.

    So I would say that mindfulness and awareness are the same, but I generally don’t see those talking about mindfulness applying it to how to live in the relative world.

  133. barry says :

    bill PROBABLY does more & better research than most sources holosyncers would use,so what he says is probably more true/real.
    try to watch your ad hominem attacks on bill–if the messenger doesnt have any credibility,his message wont have any credibility–reverse the thinking & ask if bill’s messages/sources have any credibility;then does bill,passing such info to us,have any credibility?
    speaking of credibility–integral/ken ran a few segments about 9 mo ago on UFOs,indicating we just still can’t explain the reports,which are coming from more & more credible sources—any thoughts?
    also ken said on a web-talk recently that he has reason believe that,paraphrased slightly, “nuclear terrorism is likely to occur in the US w/in next 10yrs”.
    if either UFOs or suitcase nukes “happen”,that will be a big prediction-up-setter.

    FROM BILL: I don’t think it’s at all unlikely that we will have nuclear terrorism. We are entering dark times of extremely negative social mood, perhaps the darkest since the 1300s (for a great description of this period in history, check out Barbara Tuchman’s book, A Distant Mirror–at least read about it on Amazon).

    As for UFOs, the fact that there is something we can’t explain doesn’t mean that it comes from outer space.

  134. Paul Cowan says :

    I think you make a great point about forging local ties. The problem is that the vast majority of people just do not realise the problem. In the UK, the mainstream press brigade are still talking about some crazy ‘recovery’ we are in. The funniest clip was just after the bank of England created about 75bn pounds of funny money (QE). He said at the press conference that he expected inflation to fall sharply in 2012 to under 2012. He did not give one shred of evidence or logic as to why this would happen. But people just believe it. In the UK the BBC is seen as the oracle of truth. This is not my assessment of what is pumped out 24 hours a day.

    Anybody I do try and explain just how insurmountable the debt is just does not buy it or does not want to hear it. It is worth remembering that most here in the UK are credit card max’d and bank loaned max’d to the hilt. I am glad to say I am not one of those although I do have a mortgage.

    I think the best thing one can do in the coming years is be lucky :-). There has never been a better time to be in the right place at the right time.

    FROM BILL: If you’ll remember, you didn’t believe me when I first told you about all of this, either. That’s just the way people are–they have been told one thing over and over and when someone tells them something that contradicts it, it creates anxiety, a cognitive dissonance. And, people don’t like to hear bad news, anyway. What changed your mind? That might be a clue as to how to change the minds of others.

    I wasn’t necessarily saying that you should build relationships based on agreeing on what is happening in the world. I’m saying that as things get worse, relationships, period, will be valuable.

  135. Ganesh says :

    Hi Bill, I was looking at a chart of the Elliot wave of the last millennium, and it seems that we are heading into an X-wave correction (next size up after Grand Super cycle) We have been going up and up since 1000 AD and now we are coming down. The Dark Ages were a correction of a Y-wave (one size up after X) and so that’s why the dark ages were so long. This correction is only of an X-wave, so it won’t be as bad as the Dark Ages, but worse than all the corrections during the last 1000 years. I’m throwing around terms in my limited understanding of this, sorry about that.

    But Bill, couldn’t we say that from the start of the Big Bang, we have the start of Waves, so in that sense, we really have no idea /where/ we are in the wave at the largest wave scale of universe time; we could’ still be going up in the grand scale. Of course this doesn’t take away from this correction that might last a couple of hundred years (not sure about this)

    FROM BILL: It would be of only slight comfort to know that for the rest of your life things will get worse, but it’s only a negative correction in an overall improvement cycle.

  136. Chris M says :

    I had a thought that seemed quite interesting and thought I’d ask about it. Upon reading some of the more recent comments. Then there was more questions. My initial question is roughly: There’s the concept of these energy meridians throughout the body / nadis, etc. People have nervous systems. Some people report that magnetic bracelets / bed underlays, etc reduce pain, arthritis, etc. Some older people report benefits from such things. Holosync may strengthen nervous system. Nervous system has electrical impulses, etc. (random electromagnetic body-field/aura-type concept). I have also heard of people first hand who can effect compasses, for example. What is your understanding of this kind of thing? There are several things such as various martial arts that have concepts of chi/ki/energy too. It may have an impact on ones sense of personal space, as well. Who knows, is this why certain divine figures have circular halos around there heads in pictures? Seems curious.

    I’ve heard mention during his presidency, Mr. Clinton had a notable effect on what’s happening now, a part in the banks being controlled into this situation.

    I have a question about awkward questions. Are they resourceful: for example-
    “The people that seem to be resistant to what you have been saying more recently, do you consider it they are beyond your help, or if you had more time you could effect them? It’s tempting to call directed focus a miracle.”

    FROM BILL: A book could be written about each of these questions. I’m sorry, but they are so general and open-ended I just don’t have the time to answer them.

    Magnets do not have healing properties.

  137. Bristow says :

    I have this “condition” called “Synaesthesia” referred above by Dave S Perkins. I can’t speak for other synaestetes out there as I have never met any but, using Holosync hasn’t had any negative or positive effect on this “condition” for lack of a better word. And I have never met other synaestetes possibly because like me, after being mocked and ridiculed often enough as a child and by my own parents, they have learned to keep that side of their personality hidden. But that was 50+ years ago and hopefully, things have changed since then. I didn’t even learn it had a name until 1993 when I read about it and needless to say, it was quite an epiphany and a relief to find out that other shared this affinity.

    This is something I was born with, something that has always been a part of me. It is a great memory enhancer as I can use the colours associated with a name, word, number, piece of music, shapes of different food etc., as a terrific mnemonic. Because of it, I excelled in school and throughout my life, people have remarked on my excellent memory. To me it is as normal as breathing and so far as I know, most people do not love breathing. They just do it. Does exceptional memory make you more aware? I don’t know.

    What I do know is that Holosync has greatly increased my already pretty deep awareness and has been an incredible help in dealing with deeply buried issues. It is my opinion that EVERYBODY, regardless of any special “talent, condition, handicap” can and will benefit with daily listening of the Holosync cds

    For those interested, I found a link that best describes how living with Synaesthesia has been for me:

    Although I do not play a musical instrument, music plays a very important role in my life.

    Each synaestete is different in the colour they perceive when hearing words. The word window to me is yellow (video).


    FROM BILL: One famous high-functioning autistic man (who is high-functioning enough to describe some of the things he is able to do, such as do math with huge numbers in his head instantly, memorize the digits of pi to 25,000 decimal places, etc) uses this very system to do math problems. Each number has a shape and a color. He puts the shape/color together and gets another shape/color, which is the answer. Obviously his nervous system is wired in a way different from other people.

  138. Ken says :

    Re: my 10/28 post…

    “On a related topic, can you consider making a 60 min theta cd with a dive and immersion portion? This would allow people to listen longer than 30 min at a time if they wanted. I think it would sell well. I’d buy it. I mentioned it to Gilson several months back so it probably hasn’t made it’s way to your desk yet. (Only kidding. Marc’s a great guy.)

    FROM BILL: Yes, the Holosync 2.0 has enough theta to substitute for the SuperTheta. If you want more theta, listen to the SuperTheta for as long as you want.”

    Bill, the SuperTheta instructions say you must wait 20-30 min before listening again because you can’t go from low theta to alpha immediately. So if one wanted to listen for 1 hr, you’d have to listen for 30 min, wait 30 min, listen for 30 min. I was suggesting either breaking it up into two tracks, so the immersion portion could be replayed (to extend listening time), or else offer a new 60 min SuperTheta cd. Adding a second track might not add anything to the production costs but would offer added flexibility many theta fans would pay more for, including myself.

    No need to post this. Just a product suggestion. Thanks for listening and good luck with the webinar!

    FROM BILL: Super Theta has no alpha in it. I am not aware of that instruction. It is probably there to prevent some people from overdoing it.

  139. james says :

    FROM BILL: Super Theta has no alpha in it.

    What are you talking about?! You need to go through alpha to get to theta, you know that!

    FROM BILL: As I said, there is no alpha on Super Theta. It is all theta.

  140. catherine H says :

    Aren’t nervous systems incredible things? Years ago I was diagnosed with an ‘over active’ one (it’s a long story) and had an operation to ‘correct’ it. It’s still as active as ever btw which is just fine now. Thought this was quite interesting on the subject of synesthesia….

    Synesthesia research offers an explanation for a phenomenon that has been described by psychics.
    Many self-proclaimed psychics say they can detect a person’s aura, often described as a colorful energy field given off by certain people. But Jamie Ward, head of the Synesthesia Research Group at University College London, said some people can experience colors in response to people they know — a condition called emotion-color synesthesia.
    “The ability of some people to see the colored auras of others has held an important place in folklore and mysticism throughout the ages,” said Ward. “Rather than assuming that people give off auras or energy fields that can only be detected by rigged cameras or trained seers, we need only assume that the phenomenon of synesthesia is taking place.”

  141. Laura says :

    Love this blog and your work.

    What if one created college loan debt based on the faulty premise that more educatin equals better employment, greater earnings, more ability to create (finding this hard in such an over-reuglated society) and now is feeling “crushed” by the debt with underemployment, low earnings, etc?

    I understand I must take responsibility, but simply don’t know how to do that and take care of my family. I thought I was doing the right thing, now I find myself enslaved by debt. I, like our country, have debt that is not commensurate with my ability to pay it, and it is not dischargable under current law .

    I have a wealthy brother who is considering leaving our country because of the conditions. Great for him. He has the money to do so. What about the rest of us who did not have the awareness we needed and are just begining to wake up? (Gratitude for the debt, that it is causing me to look deeper?)

    The advice to “get out of debt” seems absurd when one makes just enough to pay the living expenses (okay, downsize a house that doesn’t have the value it did when you purchased it, so now more debt, stop eating healthy food so you’re brain dead and unhealthy, where Chinese made clothes that don’t fit and fall apart and really get a bad review at work…).

    I look forward to your post on preparing spiritually, because that, to me, seems like the only practical option for the rest of us.

    FROM BILL: Yes, I feel for you being in that situation. As I have pointed out, the college loan things was mandated by the government–by leftists in the government, that is, who assumed that it was a great idea to have people who couldn’t afford to do so go to college. Same thing with mandating that those who couldn’t afford a house should buy one. And, yes, most people just assumed that those in charge had their best interests at heart. They didn’t, though. This is why I have pleaded with people to take more responsibility for themselves in the sense of researching whatever they are doing for themselves instead of just believing the party line, whatever the subject.

    The government has, in MANY areas, given everyone a false feeling of security that they are protecting you. Examples of this are banking safety (the FDIC does not protect you, it just makes the banks more willing to do risky things with the money they have on deposit), food safety (the government has nowhere near the staffing to actually police food safety–luckily 98% of food companies realize that if their food isn’t safe they will be driven out of business, so the food companies police themselves), the FDA and drug safety (same thing as with food safety, except that with drug safety the FDA’s approach which takes years to get approvals for new drugs allow many people to die or suffer while the S L O W FDA plods along in their approval process, even when a drug is being successfully used all over the world.

    I could go on, but I won’t. And, the above is probably not comforting to you anyway. I would, though, reexamine other areas of your life where you assume someone else is taking care of you. In fact, I would urge you to read How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Browne (fantastic book), which you can find online in PDF form–just google the title with PDF after it.

    In times of positive social mood people assume that borrowing money is a good idea because it seems as if it will be a snap to repay it. Those who were paying closer attention to the economy and not buying what the rulers were saying knew that debt in this environment is a bad idea (and were saying so over 15 years ago, at least). Expensive lesson. I don’t know enough about the rules and consequences of not paying vs continuing to pay to be of much help. Another lesson about how governments fuck things up while trying to give the impression that they are helping.

  142. Santiago says :

    I like the concept of how new memes have their own shadows. As I see it, there is a huge global shift happening around the experience of connectedness, people are becoming more aware of how what anyone does affects everyone else. I think this is great because it builds up a sense of community and social responsibility. People say “don’t think only about your self, think of others”.

    But the shadow here is precisely the demonization of individual interest, the infamous “greed” of the individual should be replaced by “social justice” for everyone – maybe that’s why people are starting to blame capitalism for the worlds problems. (For a few to be rich many have to be poor)

    And as I think Bill is trying to point out, the demonization of individual interest leads to authoritarian societies that end up creating huge sufferings for most of the people. In this societies everyone is “equal” – that’s “equally” poor and miserable.

    As far as I can see, a “solution” to this would be people realizing that the way to satisfy one’s own individual interest is by helping others to satisfy their’s. Then there is a relief of that conflict between self interest and the interests of others.

    In seeking good for myself I help others – In seeking good for others I help myself.

    FROM BILL: That isn’t going to happen. In times of declining social mood there is a move AWAY from helping others, away from connectedness. The OWS people are not inclusionists, they are EXclusionists, despite their rhetoric. There will not be a mass solution to this because in times of declining social mood it increasingly becomes “every man (or woman) for himself.”

    The solution, if any, comes at an individual level. You, as an individual, can be inclusive. You can look to serve others, to be aware of and help meet their needs. This isn’t going to happen on a mass scale, though, until social mood changes direction. There is no global awareness of or movement toward connection. The movement is in the other direction, despite the rhetoric.

    Social justice is, as you noted, a leveling process, where everyone is equally poor. Social Justice doesn’t really mean what it seems to mean. What we should want, IMO, is equal opportunity, not equality. With equal opportunity you still have to deal with the fact that not everyone exercises equal initiative, equal talent, equal persistence, or bringing equal value to society. Those with more initiative, talent, persistence, and value delivery DESERVE more. Unless this is so those with those qualities are not motivated to create, and THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO CARRY SOCIETY. They invent things, create things, make things happen, lead. Without them, we are like the Soviet Union, perpetually standing in line for a few second-rate items.

    Social Justice is anything but “just”. This is the view where everyone gets an “A”, everyone gets a trophy, where those who work hard don’t get more. That isn’t just at all. With that system, where is the motivation? Where is the inspiriation to be better?

  143. First off – my apologies for constantly seeming to hi-jack your blog and your thinking, I’ve perhaps appeared here more often than I would have intended when I first start using your product earlier in the year.

    What would you say to people who feel they haven’t a Real World left to step back into, people who’ve been ultimate victims of there own thinking or the thinking of the mass confused society at large, and have for there own sanity simply withdrawn?

    Also–In traditional Western Holy-Trinity kinds of Religions there is an obsession surrounding Israel and the Arab states and that being the place that a World-War III would start, whereas someone non-religious or non-committed like myself -when I look around the World tends to think that any new War is more likely in the borderlands of China-India-Pakistan which also happens to be a hotbed of various Spiritual and non-spiritial but disciplined learnings – will you be able to expand on that area in your forthcoming blog.

    Again -my apologies for having to much to say but let me add anyway -talk of Aliens-Area-51 etc is weigh lacking in credibility to me, so if not being a credible source means not believing in all things, I’m happy to not be a credible source.

  144. and yes I know Israel is at 30 degrees by 30 degrees on any World atlas but surley that only matters to people who look at atlases, most folks these days obsess with satellites and GPS systems which seems strange considering few of us are that well travelled.

  145. Carlos says :

    Somebody once said “in socialism the hard working man becomes lazy and the honest man becomes a thief”.

    That is totally true. while living most of my adult life in a socialist/communist country I tried to get as much as I could from the system by every mean necessary and boy was I lazy!

    I Knew however that I had the capacity to work hard if I saw the rewards. but I would never do it for the common good ,everybody that is working for the common good is EXPECTING everybody else to do the same and they will be disappointed for sure.


  146. Kevin says :

    Anybody who has an hour to spare, this video is very revealing about how corrupt the main stream media is, and how communist forces are behind it.

  147. Ken says :

    Anybody who has 5 minutes to spare, this video is very revealing about how Bill Harris kicks ass.

  148. Ken says :

    Re: SuperTheta


    Regarding your comments above about this, Marc said you’re probably thinking of the prototype version and that the final version goes from alpha down to theta and we should wait at least 10 min before listening again. No biggie. I know you have a lot of cd’s to keep track of. Just wanted to clarify for everybody about waiting before listening again.

    So don’t forget my product suggestion about offering a 1 hr ST (or splitting up the 30 min cd into dive and immersion portions) so we could extend listening time without pausing.

    Thanks and another great webinar. I learned a lot. Especially funny is how some people imagine “sounds” that aren’t really there. That was quite a question!

  149. Erik says :

    Hey Bill,

    Haven’t been here for some time… I have to say this post really brought out how much I have to learn about the world I live in. The huge gaps in my knowledge and education are glaringly obvious to me now. I also notice how easy it is to get caught up in some kind of popular opinions, like capitalism is the root of all evil etc. when you don’t have a strong base of facts about what’s really going on and how things really work.

    During the last couple of days I went through the 2003 spring centerpointe retreat cds that I got with holosync and I have to say, that’s some of the most useful and interesting stuff I’ve ever heard. It’s strange, because I have listened to them before, but somehow it’s like I heard most of it for the first time.

    One thing I’m really interested in is what have you learned since that time? What knowledge or key insights have you had during those 8 years?

    Also, one thing I’ve been wondering about is what’s the difference between the types of meditation that have you focus on something to create a meditative state and zazen?

    To me it seems like Holosync(which is like super-meditation) and zazen, which is just sitting without actually focusing on any one thing are quite different. With zazen, people don’t seem to care too much about getting into meditative states… so, I’m wondering, what do you know about zazen, and is there any point in doing both zazen and Holosync, or is just Holosync enough?

    To everyone who have the 2003 retreat cds: Go listen to them again. It’s life changing material.


    FROM BILL: Zazen is about being aware of what is happening, without focusing on anything. Other forms of meditation are about becoming single-focused. Both are valuable.

  150. Donald Walsh says :


    I’ve seen that you’re in the lineup of Todd Goldfarb’s tipping point series, some great minds there, nice! I would like endorse Forster Gamble’s work with his “Thrive” movie, a must watch!

    Kind Regards, Donald

  151. Santiago says :

    Bill have you heard the Rand Paul (Ron Paul’s son) racial controversy ? He says business should be able to reject costumers based un race.

    PD Is the Donald Walsh here the “Conversations with God” Neal D. Walsh ?

    FROM BILL: In my opinion, an employer should be able to hire or not hire anyone he wants to. He knows what’s best for his business. It’s not about race, it’s about CHOICE and doing what one wants with one’s own property.

  152. Miika says :

    Hey Bill,

    This idea that the world is invariably becoming a more chaotic place right now is a little confusing to me. If we got enough people to become aware (which I know is not going to happen), and take responsibility for how they feel, how they act etc. wouldn’t things be different? Or is social mood a set-in-stone type of thing like gravity? Is there really nothing that we can do (Besides become more aware and do the other things that you talked about in the previous blog posts)?

    Another point I want to make is that I don’t think that driving taxes low is necessary good, because high social benefits that are made possible by high taxes have a positive effect as well. Take a person like my mother for example, who doesn’t make a lot of money. Hers is a profession that isn’t paid well, not in my country or in the U.S. The difference is that in my country, she doesn’t have to pay inorbitant sums of money for health care or for me and my sister to go to college. In this way, everybody gets an opportunity to educate themselves. Whether they exercise this option is of course a different matter.

    Additionally, socialism has the benefit of increased safety (maybe not always, but in Scandinavia at least). When we take care of people, less people wound up being secluded from society, and do things like theft in order to be able to provide for themselves. I don’t know about people in general, but for me the fact that I can walk almost anywhere in my country even when it’s dark outside, and I don’t have to be afraid that I’m gonna be mugged is worth quite a lot. What kind of money value would you put on something like that? I don’t mean to judge, I just want to offer another perspective.

    FROM BILL: Socialism is based on taking something from someone who has rightly earned it to give it to someone who hasn’t. Your mpther chose a certain line of work, probably knowing what the consequences, rewards, etc, would be. If she wanted more money, she should have chosen something else. The benefits you like are paid for by someone else who earned the money only to have the government take it away to give to someone who didn’t earn it. One person’s benefits are the theft of another person’s hard-earned money.

    By the way, Sweden is in serious debt trouble. Hmmm. Could that be a result of…socialism? Who will pay that debt? Swedish taxpayers, you say? That’s right. Is that fair to those taxpayers? Not in my opinion.

  153. Miika says :

    Yeah, but low wages are built-in to some professions. What about all the cleaners, teachers and nurses of the world? Even though my mother (and other people as well) could have chosen other professions, the need for these aforementioned professions still exists.

    In my opinion it’s good to balance the playing field and to give people a more equal opportunity (what you called theft). Who’s not to say that my mother or another person who doesn’t make that much money, hasn’t worked just as hard as the CEO of some company or a brain surgeon? Some professions are more esteemed than others, and this is why people working in these professions make more money (there are other reasons, I’m oversimplifying). However these estimations are based on subjective views.

    I think that it’s good that everybody gets an equal opportunity. In my opinion the fact that education is free gives people an opportunity to improve their life conditions even when they are born into poor, non-supportive conditions. I would rather live in a place where the basic idea behind society is that everybody takes care of each other, rather than the idea that we must make as much money as possible. Capitalism tends to increase the gaps that exist between people’s living standards.

    Yeah in Scandinavia there is a lot of talk of how the welfare state is in crisis etc. I do agree that the system needs to change. Do you have any idea for how long this negative period in social mood will last? I am guessing there is no foreseeable answer, but is it 10,50,100,1000 years? Any guesses?

    FROM BILL: People are not paid more or less because in some theoretical way they are “more esteemed”. They are paid more or less because those who are paying for their services are willing to pay a certain amount while are the same time those who are being paid are willing to work for that amount.

    If no nurses would work for the currently offered wage, AND hospitals wanted nurses enough that they would (or could afford to) pay them more, they would pay them more and the wage would go up. The hospital weighs the value of the nurses’ services vs what they have to pay to get those services, and the nurses weight what they have to do for the money (including their education, etc) vs what is being paid. Each agree, or not, to do complete their side of the bargain.

    This is called “the free market.” And, it has nothing to do with how hard someone works–it’s about how much the buyer of the service values it vs the willingness of the seller to provide it for a certain price. This is the most efficient and fair way to value ANYTHING: labor, services, products, anything. In this way of valuing things those who are using the thing of value decide HOW MUCH they value it, which obviously makes sense. Why should anyone pay more for something than what they think it’s worth? Who would want to be forced to pay more for something than they thought the item was worth?

    If you don’t think an item (a hotel room, for instance) is worth $600 a night (to you, given your wants, needs, and resources), you don’t rent that room. Perhaps you look for a cheaper room, or find some other solution. If the hotel has many empty rooms, they might reduce their prices rather than let them sit empty and unrented. As long as willing renters are around, and there willing hoteliers with rooms to rend, bargains are made and people rent the rooms.

    Again, how much work goes into something has nothing to do with its value. Value is established by the person buying the item. Period. This isn’t a knock on nurses. It’s just the collective opinion of the entire market for nursing services.

    One final point: when the government steps in and forces people to do something, one way or another, regarding the price of whatever they are selling (including labor), is screws up the system. In fact, those who they say they are trying to help are the ones most often harmed, and when minumum wage laws make it so expensive to hire cheap labor that those needing it do with fewer workers (with more workers they have to raise prices which drives away their customers). This results in unemployment.

    Get some books about economics by Thomas Sowell. He explaims how all this works very clearly.

  154. Erik says :

    The forms of meditation that focus on one thing do that to achieve a meditative state. So, since listening to Holosync does that automatically, I understand that you can do zazen at the same time… Jeez, that question sounds a bit stupid now that I know how simple zazen really is…
    Just sitting indeed.

    I have another question though… Do you have any information on what might be happening in Europe in the coming months(especially on the eastern side)? Any chance of a conflict with Russia in the next few years?

    You said that at some point a huge war will break out. How much time to you predict we have until then?

    I’m really looking forward to your next blog post.


    FROM BILL: Every time social mood turns negative, it eventually results in a major war in Europe. Right now Europe is in SERIOUS SERIOUS (did I say serious?) trouble. The Eurp[ean economy will implode sometime in the next couple of years or sooner. I don’t know how this will play out in any specific way, or what countries will be involved. Probably all of them.

  155. Ken says :

    Re: European style socialism in the US

    Won’t work. Your comparison is flawed in every aspect. A lot of Europeans who’ve never lived in the US are brainwashed into thinking things are other than they are.

    Europeans assume crime in America is caused by poor people who have no food because their is no social net. This is completely false on every count. Poor people get free food via food stamps, free public housing, free medical care at every hospitals. And have for the last half century.

    Most petty crime in America is caused by those on drugs who require an inexhaustible supply of cash to buy their drugs or those who want luxury goods ($150 shoes, $600 leather jackets, $1000 gold chains, $5000 rolexes, $100,000 mercedes benz amg’s, etc.) but dropped out of (free) public high school after never studying. They have no skills, no work ethic, but want to live like a rock star and have noticed it’s easier to steal things than work for them. That’s 90% of your petty crime in wealthy countries like the US right there. In third world countries, on the other hand, 90% is caused by hunger.

    As far as more safety at night, free “secondary” education, free “preventative” medical care, these things are far easier to offer to smaller, educated, homogeneous cultures than large, less educated, diverse ones. Particularly with the safety at night, a small homogeneous culture will always be safer than a large, diverse one.

    As the populations around London and Paris have become more “diverse” over the last decade, the amount of crime around those cities has risen to (unfortunately) closely match that of New York City. Has Paris or London radically changed their entitlement policy over the last 15 years? I don’t think so. Yet crime has risen. So it must be caused by something other than entitlement spending, huh?

    You don’t need advanced degrees to figure this out people. Just a little common sense and a small amount of diversity in your information sources. If you like pbs, great. Start watching fox news twice a week. If you like fox news, great. Start watching pbs. If you read Time magazine, check out the Economist. If you just read the Sun, Enquirer, and watch Jon Stewart for your news sources, um, what’s new with the Kardashians?

  156. Santiago says :

    People who like socialism tend to talk about how great the scandinavian countries are (senator Bernie Sanders), that education and health are free and of great quality.
    Government takes care of everyone there.

    Have you looked into how this countries work ?

    FROM BILL: Way less well than the mythology says. As I said before, Sweden (for instance) is seriously in debt. I suspect the other Scandinavian countries are as well. Centralized control and social entitlement program ALWAY crash and burn eventually.

    If you think otherwise, move to one of those countries.

  157. AlanH says :

    Hi Bill,

    Im going to go off topic again but I wanted your opinion about holosync usage. With 2.0 and classic, and all of the CDs included within each level (floating, gamma, alpha, theta, etc) what would be your ideal listening schedule If you, Bill Harris, had to start over and money wasn’t an obstacle and you had classic and 2.0. I want to get the full benefits of the program but there seems to be not enough hours in the day to listen to all of the tracks. Thanks for your advice!

    FROM BILL: Read and follow the directions for the main program. Use the other soundtracks as you desire.

  158. michelle s says :

    I can’t resist. I looked up the GDP debt ratios which use the data from the CIA. Sweden’s debt ratio is at 39.7%, US at 62.3%. Every country that is “westernized” is probably carrying too much debt. Whether that debt is made worse by large government that have generous social programs or by corrupt policies could be a debate. I don’t think that socialism is the answer,nor do I think that a lot of policies in the US are all that great either- for example 6 week maternity leave, lack of unified medicare, etc. If and when taxes are allocated appropriately- I like having lighted streets, road maintenance, good schools and hospitals and the amenities that come with fair taxation. It’s hard to quantify fair-but a decent standard of living is always good. -decent meaning freedom from fear, freedom to pursue goals, freedom for social mobility. I don’t support the ‘occupy movement’ as there is no direction or goal in mind. I think that people and governments have expected too much for too little and it’s catching up. As always it’s harder to catch up and fix things than to make do. I always appreciate comments and I look forward to learning more- especially about how to apply increased threshold to living in these interesting times.

    FROM BILL: You think without socialism we wouldn’t hvae lighted streets, good schools, etc? Then you have been brainwashed, because there is no evidence to support that premise.

  159. Miika says :

    Hi Bill,

    I see that my posts have sparked some discussion. I think that we both agree on the fact that having government always incurs extra costs. In my opinion, this doesn’t mean that government is “bad.” If nurses for example want more salary, they need to go on a strike (unless the employers just want to pay them extra just like that). If just one or two nurses go on strike, they can be replaced, but if all of them go on strike, people stop getting treatment etc. That’s not an ideal situation either.

    I don’t think that Scandinavia is a utopia, far from it. The current financial difficulties are an example that the welfare state needs to be reforged. But having lived in the States as well (only for a year though, I admit), I think that many things are arranged better here. For example, I remember one time I was driving around in an upscale area, where the average price of housing was around $300 000. Then, I crossed a set of train tracks, and it seemed to me that I had arrived into a different town altogether. The whole area was very run-down and dilapidated. I later heard that the average cost of housing in that area was 30 000. For me the difference between these two areas was staggering. I’m glad that we don’t have that kind of mosaic over here, and that there aren’t as many poor people, or incarcerated people.

    Let’s say that we lived in a very liberal country, where taxes are very low. What about the people who aren’t able to take care of themselves? Are we just going to think: “Life is tough, if you can’t survive, that’s too bad.” Doesn’t sound too sympathetic. I suppose that philanthropy is one option.

    I’ll check out Thomas Sowell. I’m a little afraid of what’s going to happen in Europe over the next couple of years. I guess I should buy some gold like you suggested, just in case. Do you have any guesses how long this downturn in social mood will last? More than 10 years?

    For anybody that’s interested in the state of education among the OECD countries, check out Pisa.,2987,en_32252351_32235731_1_1_1_1_1,00.html

    FROM BILL: Those 30,000 homes exist because that’s what those people can afford to have. With those homes, though, they are probably still in the top 5% in the world. Their income is a reflection of what value they offer and what others are willing to pay for that value. Some people set out to find a high value to deliver, and pay the price to become someone who can deliver that value. Others don’t set out to do that or aren’t willing to pay that price. Some aren’t able to pay the price (I mean in terms of hard work and persistence, not money).

    The job of government, in the US at least, is SUPPOSED to be to protect the rights of people so they can keep what they earn without people who are stronger taking it away, and so people have to keep their legal agreements, also so the stronger can’t take advantage of the weak. The only other job assigned by the constitution is to provide for the common defense. Other rights are reserved to the states and to the people.

    This is not how it is in the US today, however, and many people believe as you do–that the governent should take from the more productive and give to the less productive. This is basically immoral and always eventually ends in financial collapse, authoritarian government, and a lack of initiative–among the less productive because they have less motivation to work hard when they are getting lots of free stuff, and among the more productive because they are having to support those who aren’t productive. We’re moving toward an endgame on this, and it will not be pleasant.

  160. Erik says :

    Bill, what do you think is the best thing to do with money at this point? If you think investing in gold is the thing to do, what’s the safest way to do that?

    Also, is there really any point in “putting money under the mattress” if there might be a hyperinflation? (Could there be one?)

    Can you tell me what are the most important steps you have taken in preparation?

    When do you think your next post will be out? (Sorry about the load of questions…)

    FROM BILL: I discussed this in some detail in my last post. Go read it. My recommendation right now? Gold and cash. (Cash means cash, not money market funds, bank accounts, bonds, etc.)

  161. michelle s says :

    No- I don’t think without socialism we wouldn’t have lighted streets- etc. That is not what I said. I said that taxes have a purpose, and it’s unfortunate that the purpose- ie to provide a certain level of service in areas such as roads, maintenance, libraries, schools, hospitals, benefits and health care has been perverted to increase government spending, lobbying and the like. I don’t want to go back to a feudal system in the Middle Ages where I pay taxes to some random lord that most likely got his fortune by an accident of birth. The system as is stands is broken and flawed- and I don’t think any government socialist or ‘liberal’ or whatever the heck the US is at the moment has a chance of fixing it without there being huge upheaval and pain. What I wonder is why everyone keeps putting off and putting off the eventual price to pay? It’s not getting easier- it’s like ignoring a tumour until it kills the host-and I think it’s coming.


    FROM BILL: The things the govenment really ought to be doing could be done on 1/10th, maybe 1/20th, the taxes that are now levied. The rest is corruption and income transfer from the productive to the non-productive or less-productive.

    I agree that there is not going to be a solution to this. Those in power do not want the consequences of people finding out that the larder is empty, and that the rulers have royally screwed things up. So, they will keep the game going as long as possible, with some group of rulers finally being in power when things collapse. I would look to yourself to survive this, not the government.

  162. Donald Walsh says :

    No, I am not Neale Donald Walsh, I’m Donald Walsh, and I’m having a conversation with Bill, not with God! LOL

  163. Donald Walsh says :

    FROM BILL: Every time social mood turns negative, it eventually results in a major war in Europe. Right now Europe is in SERIOUS SERIOUS (did I say serious?) trouble. The Eurpean economy will implode sometime in the next couple of years or sooner. I don’t know how this will play out in any specific way, or what countries will be involved. Probably all of them.

    Same with the US…the game’s been rigged, and it’s been set up on purpose to go up in flames just around this time…it is a big idea…a… .

  164. Chris M says :

    Have you done any learning of logic skills, say probability theory type things? Have any source material recommendations?

    FROM BILL: Too big of a question. Google it.

  165. Matthew P says :

    I am currently about to start college and This blog makes it seem almost as if doing so would be pointless given the way that things are headed… I know some degrees are completely pointless and simply a waste of miney and time but it is hard to find information out there that is accurate and unbiased… Any ideas on What you think would be some of the more recession proof majors?

    FROM BILL: College is useful for three reasons: it introduces you to many subjects you wouldn’t otherwise probably look into, which gives you the chance to become a much more well-educated and well-rounded person; and it gives you a certificate that qualifies you for higher education (Masters Degree, PhD), which usually only allows you to teach but could open you to certain professions (attorney, accountant, engineer, etc); it gives you a certificate that makes you a bit more hirable in a world where it’s much more difficult to get a good job with just a high school diploma.

    The drawbacks? 1) The colleges are run by progressives and they do NOT give you an objective look at the learning that has been accumulated by human beings. Instead, they give you a good dose of liberal or left-wing propoganda about such things as “social justice” (code for taking property from the productive and giving it to the unproductive), “sustainablilty” (the idea that making a profit is evil and destroys the world, when clearly the profit motive has increased human beings’ standard of living by a hundred-fold), and other such nonesense. 2) Even in more objective times colleges race you through subjects so fast you don’t have time to savor the information and really mull it over and digest it. To do that you have to read about those things that interest you, after college, on your own. I’ve learned 95% of what I know OUTSIDE of college (and I have about 11 years of post-high school education).

    I would avoid liberal arts. An education in the sciences (hard sciences, not social sciences) or business is most likely to get you a good job.

  166. Ken says :

    Re: Storing cash

    FROM BILL: I discussed this in some detail in my last post. Go read it. My recommendation right now? Gold and cash. (Cash means cash, not money market funds, bank accounts, bonds, etc.)


    Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving. Are you in charge of cooking anything?

    Also, where do you think is a “relatively” safe place to store one’s cash? I’m not comfortable keeping that amount in my home in a safe and also have concerns that a bank safety deposit box is the best way to go. I have a bank box now for documents, but before renting a bigger one, I’ve read that banks often specifically prohibit the storing of cash in them. Also, if a bank fails, access can be blocked. Any suggestions? Thanks.


    FROM BILL: Banks do not know what you put in their safety deposit boxes. You open them in private. The negative about safety deposit boxes is that in the event of a bank holiday (which I think is likely during the next few years) you will not be able to get your money. A hidden safe is probably best. There are “survival” companies that also sell capules in which you can bury money in your yard, but you’d better remember where it is.

  167. Carlos says :


    I am reading “Why the west rules…” and it is super good. I love reading about history and psicology not that much about science and economics.

    I Know you have recommended a ton of books in the last couple of posts and over the years but if you could recommend only 4 or 5 books on history and psicology off the top of your head what would those be? ( other than “think and grow rich” and ” how i found freedom…”


    FROM BILL: The history of what? This is too broad of a question. There are thousands of books on both subjects. I have, however, listed many such books at the end of my last posted article. Look up Will and Ariel Durant, Barbara Tuchman, alan Bullock, Richard J. Evans, William Shirer for history, though there’s no way to give a quick list. Go to Amazon and browse. Follow your nose. Start reading and you’ll learn.

  168. Does Super-Jerusalem-Theory Overwhelm
    Are You Gollum from Lord of the Rings
    Seeking To Balance Intuition Divined
    The Source Sings Corrosion How Now
    A Hologrammed World of Neg on Negs
    The Compass spins Wildly a Twist
    Theories Unique Individuals Aligned
    Where is Wands Freedom and Bliss
    In Pictures and Sounds Magna-Carta Splashes Down
    Animals Processing Harps
    Alcohol Whisk-ids Drunk Coastal Shores
    A Web-weaving collection of nits
    Oracles for Ohms Candelebra’s will shake
    Leonardo’s Mozart’s brain-bowels
    Goldfishing Artifacts Bowling at Pins
    Stimulate Resources Whipping Hyms
    Counter Counter contracts up
    Belly-flops at speed
    Exodus the Knight-Club Shower
    Money the King of Sports
    Science OWS know Passioned Grands
    Upon Earth’s sweeping reports

  169. Paul Cowan says :

    This is a great article as to why derivatives are very much a big part of the ticking timebomb

    The GDP of the world is about a tenth of derivatives on the banks books.

    Now I am no economist but I think it is 100% accurate to say that they can never make good on $707,568,901,000,000 of derivatives. The margin calls will make the whole thing collapse just like MF global.

    Don’t expect any of this to be on the bought and paid for mainstream media.

  170. Chris M says :

    (Seemed like a good example of various things brought up in this blog.)
    Hello. I walked early in the morning for 5 hours, towards a distant, yet populated area. I found myself unable to walk at a decent speed. I stopped part way to my initial destination point. The area was very negative. I hobbled into various dairies, service stores, etc. Even for money, I could not find myself a phone-call. There was fear in some of them. And themselves seemed insecure. As I sat on an outside bench, a police car went past me 3 times. The whole place seemed paralyzed. And I vaguely felt the old people were staring at me as some kind of hooligan. Heck, one old lady stood rather than sitting on the bench, perhaps. There were some rather mannerismaly blunt people around too, younger ones. I ended up purchasing a phone card for a phone box at a highish price, from a dairy. Ironically the dairy owner was actually the most decent person there, even though I couldn’t use her phone. Albeit, I was vigorously fatigued, which may have meant some were uneasy around me.

    All in all, even a light version of the ‘How I Found Freedom’ mentality seems pretty darn resourceful.

  171. Santiago says :

    Some Austrian economists (Ron Paul, Peter Schiff … ) are warning about a coming collapse of the dollar soon. What’s your take on this ?

    FROM BILL: The inflationist think the dollar will collapse; the deflationists think it will become more valuable (ie, much more scarce). Eventually, though, the era of fiat currencies will end. I don’t think either of those two, however, are followers of the Austrian school.

  172. Ken says :

    Wonderful advice! Many thanks as always Bill.

  173. AlanH says :


    I agree with your statements regarding socialism. It isnt fair for the rich to have to pay for the entire country. And as magaret thatcher once said ‘the problem with socialism is that eventually u run out of other peoples money.’ but what about the aspect of society that are disabled or cant work. As u said in a support letter riches and poverty are always going to be part of life. So do we turn a blind eye to these people? And what do u feel is the endgame as u said about taking money from the rich?

    FROM BILL: Turning a blind eye and having the government be (supposedly) in charge of helping those who can’t help themselves are hardly the only two alternatives. So many people have been brainwashed into thinking that if there is a problem the only solution is “bring on the government.” What societal problems has government action solved? Poverty? Racism? Crime? Drugs? Immigration? Debt?

    The endgame is going to be everyone living at a much lower standard of living for many decades, autoritarian rule, financial collapse, and war.

  174. Svetlana M. says :

    I guess, nowdays, negative thinking is the natural tendency instead of positive.

  175. Bristow says :

    Iran to become diplomatic outcast?

    “China Will Not Hesitate To Protect Iran Even With A Third World War”

    This is not negative thinking. It is reality.

    FROM BILL: Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. Finding an article about something doesn’t make it so. I’m betting that China’s own interest will trump her getting into a nuclear battle with the US who, despite what you read in the newspapers is many times more powerful than China, with a much bigger economy and a much bigger armed forces–and many more nuclear weapons, a much larger navy, and many more ways to deliver the nuclear weapons.

  176. Santiago says :

    Both Peter Schiff and Ron Paul are Austrian Economics scholars. Paul has written books on the subject and Schiff has been invited to speak on the Von Mises institute, the Austrian school principles are they’re main tools for their economic thinking and forecasting.

    I guess the FIAT currencies will eventually end, though it’s hard to say if it will happen during our lifetimes.

    Are you with the deflationists or the inflationists ?

    FROM BILL: I tend to think that deflation is inevitable. And that, yes, fiat currencies (for this round) will eventually fail. They will, though, come again.

    I wouldn’t call either of them economic “scholars”. Paul is a physician and a politician who has read widely about economics. Schiff is a financial manager who has also read widely about economics. Scholars they are not.

  177. Santiago says :

    I guess part of the problem with socialism vs capitalism is that the results of both are counterintuitive. Socialism apparently aims for the well being of everyone but it ends up producing the opposite results. Free market capitalism favors individual interest and apparently it ends up producing more well being for more people.

    I’ve been trying to better understand unregulated markets. Help me in seeing this, how would the free market avoid exploitation ? People would think that in an unregulated environment, business would try to reduce costs no matter what, and this would promote child labour, people working with no weekends for next to nothing … etc.

    I guess you could say that these people would not be forced to work for this companies, but in some places (for example, some places in south america) some really poor people are not left with much choice.

    This would reduce prices and favor the consumer apparently at the cost of the workers.

    How is this resolved by the free market ? Or is this in a way something that we must accept ? and even though it sounds awful, it would be better that a socialist environment ? Would you say that these people, even though working under terrible conditions, would still be better than they were before ?

    FROM BILL: Free markets are about CHOICE, about you being able to choose what you want to do, have, and be. Socialism is about some higher authority telling you what you can do, have or be.

    Free markets are not unregulated. Anarchy is unregulated. In free markets the government exists to protect your freedom as long as you are not taking from others the fruits of their own labor. In socialism the goverment exists to regulate nearly everything.

    The standard of living in the world is thousands of times higher since the advent of capitalism, even for the poorest.

  178. enzo says :

    let’s have some ferrari currencies, fiat sucks.

  179. Ken says :

    I found a terrifically funny segment on occupy wall street by comedian adam carolla. Apparently, adam hosts the record for the most downloaded podcast show according to the WSJ online where I heard about this. Anyway, here’s a you tube clip of it. It gets really interesting at 1:20. The language is salty at times so sensitive folk should probably pass on listening:

  180. Jem says :

    Santiago, Bill and everyone else, I highly recomend the book “Spontaneous Evolution -our positive future and a way to get there from here” by Bruce H. Lipton and Steve Bhaerman. It is an amazing read and answers a lot of questions you are posing Santiago.

  181. All that we are really seeing at the present time are global forms of brinkmanship with currencies,technologies and so on,a we can’t afford it-you can’t afford it stalling tactics which works for both sides in whatever “them and us” scenario you apply the Holistic imagery to.

    Two words that recent discussions bring to my own thought are “Emotional Intelligence”

    All this talk of financial doom makes me want to rush out and buy the Thomas Sowell Books you mention, yet I’m also aware that I’ve read-up on just about every subject including business economics you could mention over the years and that I probably already have that knowledge somewhere in my grey matter, and that that knowledge has so far in life already failed to serve me (much in the same way that people complain about books suchas “The Power of Now” (I recently read and thought it exceptionally over-rated)).

    I’m currently reading and enjoying Jurusalem The Biography – Simon Sebag Montefiore. and am happy to recommend that book.

    Do you think Emotional Intelligence will prevail in peoples hearts and minds or will bankers start leaping from buildings as the storm continues to worsen?

    FROM BILL: Emotional intelligence goes down in times of negative social mood. Unless, that is, you are aware enough to SEE how you create your own mood, in which case it becomes more of a choice. Use Holosync.

  182. Santiago says :

    I think I get that. In a free market the government protects you from having others force you to do things you don’t want to do, and the least government intervention the better.

    I’m all for capitalism, there’s just some issues I don’t quite get.

    So here’s the question: Are labor laws (child labor, weekends, safe environments) against the free market ? It would seem that as long as businesses are not forcing people to work under this conditions (even if they’re horrible) then there’s no problem.

    FROM BILL: Having those things IMPOSED by the government is against the free market. When child labor laws came into being there was a reason children, in some cases, were working: the families needed the income to survive. By making it illegal for the children to work, many families suffered a lower standard of living. Why should the government decide if someone works or doesn’t work?

    Those who grow and sell food are already motivated to make it safe. The government does NOT do anything to guarantee “safe” food. There is no way they can adequately police the safety of the food supply (as I have said before). Instead, they punish those who have a food safety accident, after the fact. The fact that people THINK the government is protecting the food supply causes people to not pay close attention themselves to food safety, just as the foolish idea that the government is helping make the banks safe causes people to not vet the bank they use as to the riskiness of their loans. FDIC insurance allows the banks to be MORE risky, since the insurance will bail them out if they screw up.

    Government interference nearly always hurts the very people is is supposedly designed to help.

  183. Daniel B says :

    I am looking forward to the day when we have a US president who has completed the holysync program. I believe it is just a matter of time. I also think that this very blog could have inspired it.

  184. Amber J. Gardner says :

    You know the thing that stuns me the most about this blog?

    The fact that you must have gone through ALL of Holosync. I mean, you created it.

    And yet…you make certain comments that just bewilder me. Comments I wouldn’t ever expect to hear from someone who can meditate deeper than a zen monk for years on end.

    And I don’t mean the logic stuff. I’m sure you’re very very EXTREMELY right about most of all of this. I don’t know. I don’t know very much about the government and the economy (but my instinct was telling me before I read your blog that I needed to get out of debt and find some way to support myself on my own, without a boss or the government, and not to trust the banks. I’m the type that when my guts match what I’m hearing, I believe it). That doesn’t stun me.

    It’s comments like…let me get an example…
    “FROM BILL: Well, you’ve just answered one question for me. You are quite likely not contributing much to society, as only parasites or those who have no knowledge of how the real world works and where the goods you live on really come from could say such things. Sad.”

    Now, I will admit, that there aren’t THAT many comments like these by you, but they just stun the hell out of me. I simply don’t understand the use of making such a condescending comment. I just had this belief that someone using Holosync would be able to brush off people who insult them without lowering to their level, so that stuns me to hear you say things like that.

    I’m not gonna judge. You can say and do whatever you like. I’m just very surprised. Also, I’m very liberal (I suppose. I prefer not to really label myself that way since I don’t agree with everything left wing, or even know everything that they stand for, and yet I do agree with a great deal of the things I do hear, so I find such words limiting), so perhaps I’m just biased.

    Those are just my thoughts as I scan these comments and the blog posts.

    On a totally different, unrelated note… Buying gold interests me. When and how should someone start buying gold? I’m just FINALLY becoming financially smart (if just a smudge) and I don’t have much money. What’s your advice for those who are struggling financially in these times?

    …And on another completely different unrelated note that has been on my mind lately…

    ….Can you reach “enlightenment” using Holosync?

    Thank you. :)

    FROM BILL: I don’t remember that particular comment, but it certainly wasn’t made because someone insulted me. It was most certainly made because someone betrayed the fact in their post that they think those who are productive are the problem, and they think that what such people produce is OWED to those who are not productive. They no doubt said something that only someone who is not a producer could possible advocate. Unfortunately, there are many spoiled people who think they are owed whatever they need when the actual way life works is that you get back as much as you contribute. This is the REAL “Law of Attraction.”

    And, meditating for many decades doesn’t stop someone from speaking the truth, of from being brutally honest if that person (me, in this case) thinks the other person might benefit from hearing the truth–that is, if they are willing to hear and think about what is said.

    I would buy some gold coins, now. If you can’t afford any, accumulate cash. Not bank accounts, not some sort of debt instrument (such as a money market account), but CASH.

    I don’t know what “enlightenment” is supposed to be. I would suggest striving for AWARENESS–awareness of what IS, and awareness of how you create the four things you can have choice about in this world: how you feel, how you behave, which people and situations you attract or become attracted to, and what meanings you assign to what happens.

  185. Joel says :

    Why avoid the liberal arts?

    literature, language, philosophy, history, mathematics, phycology and science?

    FROM BILL: Science is not a liberal art. You should avoid liberal arrs becaus liberal arts majors are not getting jobs these days. Major is something useful, such as business or the sciences, or something to do with medicine.

  186. Brian B says :


    I have a financial question for you that you may not be able to answer.

    Right now the average inflation rate is about 3% according to Since you are predicting a deflation, do you think the average inflation rate over the next 10 years will be negative? I know that’s probably hard to answer, but thought I would throw it out there anyway.

    I’m trying to choose between some financing options, and it’s really difficult when the interest rate is so unstable. I guess though you would be assuming really low (or negative) interest rates over the next 10 years, correct?

    FROM BILL: First of all, I would not finance anything unless it is self-liquidating debt, which means that what you buy will create income to pay for itself, plus enough extra to make a profit. Financing for consumption is just plain dumb in this environment.

    Inflation is caused by increasing the money supply. The money supply has been increased over the last 98 years (since the Federal Reserve was create in 1913) by AT LEAST 3500%. This has caused prices to rise SUBSTANTIALLY.

    When debt is paid off, or when it is admitted to be unpayable, the money supply contracts. This is called deleveraging. It is deflationary (ie, it DEFLATES the money supply.

    If I loan you $1000, you give me a note (an IOU). If you’re good for it (you have the income to pay it back, with interest), the note is worth $1000. Now I have $1000 in the form of a note and you have the original $1000. $1000 has become $2000. This is inflation.

    If you come to me later and pay be back, or if you tell me you have lost your job and can’t pay, the $1000 worth or “credit” disappear. This is deflation.

    Right now we have trillions of dollars in debt that will NEVER be paid. Those who hold the notes are pretending that the debts will be paid, but they can only pretend for so long before the truth comes out. In fact, most of the financially sophisticated people in the world already know the truth. That’s why they are exiting the banking system, buying gold, etc. When the truth comes out, the financial system will deflate like a balloon with a hole in it. Being in debt in such an environment will be poison because there will be fewer and fewer units of money available (which makes each unit worth more) to pay the debts. Those with debt will be ruined. Don’t be one of them.

  187. Joel says :

    What about the performing arts?

    hehe being and performance artist myself! Are my kind going to be shipped off in a leaky boat?

    For sure during negative social mood people still need us performers!!! we can bring that little bit of joy to peoples lives in some way.

    FROM BILL: Most performers are pretty liberal. If the liberals are in charge you’ll be fine. Of course, only the top 1% of performers make much money even in good times (I know, I’m one of them).

  188. Dennis in London says :


    I have been pondering lately about how some successful people that were drug users in their past, equate it with their future success.

    What I mean is, there are a large number of people in show business, probably music in particular, that had a significant drug problem in their past (like you did) that went on to become world famous – I’m thinking about The Beatles, The Stones and so on, that seem to attribute their “awareness” to accessing the creative part of their mind via drug use in their past.

    I cannot remember if you said that you started Holosync shortly after your own drug use of many years – but my question is this: Do you think your drug use specifically and directly led you to starting Holosync?

    Or, do you think that you would have started Holosync anyway – and that your drug use had nothing to do with it at all?

    On another matter, I have noticed some people ‘knocking’ you from time to time on this Blog – and it did occur to me that when an individual becomes very successful in their own field, some people seem to automatically attribute some kind of international “Guruship” on them and wrongly assume that they have also become the fount of all knowledge and have all the answers to EVERYTHING on the planet/universe. This is completely absurd in my view, I agree with some of the things you say, and disagree with other things you say, that’s what life is all about.

    I’m on Purification Level 3, by the way, hit sixty years old at the end of November – and my ‘real life’ continues to get better and better by using Holosync.

    My life will never be perfect, it was never meant to be, but I am grateful to you for starting Holosync – for whatever reason.

    Kind regards,


    FROM BILL: I used drugs because I was unhappy, and because I grew up during the drug culture years when everyone was taking drugs (young people, at least). I do not think it contributed in any way to my success.

    You don’t think I’m the fount all knowledge and answers? Shoot. I thought I was. Hmm. I’ll have to think this over.

  189. RMW says :

    Hi Bill,

    I am a twenty-five year old Australian guy who has never been very political, and I have no idea about economics either, but after having been spurred on by your recommendations, my knowledge is now miniscule instead of non-existent. What’s more, I am realising my past intuitions on the subject were more or less correct! (Politics is generally mythological bullshit, personal freedom is paramount etc etc). Sowell’s Basic Ecomonics is amazing! I never thought I would find economics interesting or fathomable at all, but this book is great – and the ‘spirituality’ of economics: mass energy exchange and the ‘invisible hand’, is beautiful and fascinating. Just an awesome book. His other ones look equally great. I want to read them. What a guy.

    I also have a question. I am probably about to go to north India for three years to do a yogic sannyasa training course. The course will be constant and dynamic ‘monkdom’, involving all the yogas (mostly karma, plus kriya, bhakti, hatha etc), advanced meditation, and there will be some theory and philosophy etc. So, how do you think doing Holosync alongside all this austerity would go, if I had the time? Too much overwhelm? Uneccessary? Would it complement it? Zen monks have done it, have they not?

    I am a slow-to-progress but long-time Holosync meditator. It has had such a positive effect on my growth since I started it when I was nineteen – there are really no words. Thanks Bill – for it and for all of your advice (what masterful, over-arching synthesis!!) I am truly grateful. I am a big fan, Bill-sensei.

    Om and much respect,


    FROM BILL: Having done the more traditional path myself (16 years prior to Holosync, and continuing much of it after, while using Holosync for the meditation) I think you are going to progress MUCH faster if you do your meditating with Holosync. Whether than is politically correct in the environment you’ll be in I don’t know, but I would definitely keep up with the Holosync in one way or another.

  190. I wanted to ask Bill:

    Have you ever tried Transcendental Meditation? If so, what was your experience with that? If you haven’t tried Transcendental Meditation, was there a particular reason you decided not to go in that direction?

    Thank you for your time and attention with this.


    FROM BILL: Prior to Holosync I did TM. I received a mantra in 1969. I later added 7 advanced techniques (one of which isn’t taught any more) and learned their advanced TM Sidhi program.

    The TM people are convincd that their technique is the ONLY meditation technique that works. They are, of course, wrong about that. Though I thought their techniques were just fine and worked well, the organization itself was very cult-like and inflexible in many ways. I would say that I made more progress in the first year of Holosync than in the prior 16 years of TM. Not a knock on TM, which works fine. It’s just that Holosync is much more potent.

  191. Santiago says :

    I’m trying to understand deflation vs inflation. In deflation the money supply contracts, the money is scarce so every unit of money is worth more (in this case I guess is good to have as much cash as possible). In inflation the money supply expands making each unit worth less (in this case is not so good to have cash, better to own gold I guess).

    So right now there’s a lot of debt that wont be repaid, this will contract the money supply and rise the price of dollars. But at the same time a lot of money is being printed, this means that the dollar will loose its value, in addition to this, supposedly a lot of the dollars that are now overseas (specially in China) will start to fly back to the US because people won’t want them (some even argue that the dollar will loose its world currency status, creating a dollar crisis – like Schiff and Paul).

    Why do you think deflation will happen instead of inflation, is it a matter of quantity ? (i.e. the rate of the destruction of money will be faster than the rate of the printing of money)

    FROM BILL: To avoid inflation the powers-that-be would have to create more money than disappears through deleveraging (repayment or non-payment of debts). Since the debts may be as high as $100 trillion dollars or more, and so far they have been able to inject maybe a trillion or so into the money supply, does that seem to you as if they can keep up with deleveraging? It doesn’t seem so to me. What’s more, the money they have injected isn’t getting into circulation. Banks are sitting on it. They are improving their balance sheets so as to pretend that all the loans they’ve made aren’t largely worthless. They are trying to create money IN ADVANCE of a deflationary meltdown in the hope that they will be “prepared” since the last time this happened, in the 1930s, they weren’t.

    It won’t work. Way more money will disappear than they can hope to create. Also, the only way to get it into circulation is to loan it out. But the desire to lend is nill and the desire to borrow (other than with people who are bad credit risks) is also nill.

    The problem is TOO MUCH CREDIT that can’t be repaid. Could the solution be MORE CREDIT? Not very likely, is it.

  192. Jane says :

    Hi All,

    Does anybody watch Max Keiser on Russian TV?
    He’s got tons of information about what’s going on with the corrupt bankers and governments and is very entertaining too.

  193. Joel says :

    Well the aim has always been to be a part of the top 1%

    Hopefully I have enough talent and persistence to get there! Plus I can see how Holosync is helping.

  194. Carlos says :


    Do you expect the deleveraging will be gradual or abrupt?


    From BIll: It’s been going on for about 10 years already, and will accelerate. Right now what’s holding it back is that huge amounts of debt instruments are held on the books of banks, countries, individuals, and corporations as if they were actually going to be paid (ie, as if there were worth what they would be worth if they COULD be paid). At some point it will become impossible to continue to pretend that they aren’t largely worthless, and in that moment, trillions of dollars will go ‘poof’ and disappear into money heaven–which will usher in a deflationary hell on earth.

  195. natasha says :

    bill, i’ve been doing holosync for many years now and it suddenly dawned on me that, looking back, it seems like i have been growing up somehow. maturing even more, you know?
    i also extremely resist growing up, although i know it’s going to feel better : )

    well, i just had to share this… so thank you!

  196. Ken says :

    Re: Cross-over from Deflation vs Inflation

    Hi Bill,

    I understand the big picture and fully agree with you that the massive deleveraging will cause deflation, net of inflation, in the near term.

    Can you offer us any guidance (or a book to read perhaps) on the “tipping point” of when deflation turns to inflation?

    Near term, say 2-5 yrs, it would seem to me cash (USD or SFR) would increase faster than gold. Longer term, 5-10 years, it would seem gold would increase faster than cash.

    Do you have any theories as to when we might go from deflation to inflation?

    It would seem holding 50% “cash” and 50% gold is a great, simple starting point and vastly superior to holding debt instruments along with most normal assets as you’ve cautioned.

    But I’m wondering if there any is historical precedence we can look to regarding the deflation to inflation “tipping point” to allow us to invest with a bit more precision over the coming years?


    FROM BILL: Read “This Time It’s Different” and “Endgame”.

  197. Santiago says :

    “FROM BILL: To avoid inflation the powers-that-be would have to create more money than disappears through deleveraging”

    You meant deflation right ?

    But why are the inflationists (People who have been very right on predicting the crisis like Schiff and R. Paul) not seeing it that way, if it’s so obvious, why do they keep predicting a dollar crisis ? where is their mistake ?

    FROM BILL: There will be a dollar crisis. After the deflation. Fiat currencies always fail. Read “This Time It’s Different” for a history of financial crises.

  198. I’m at present slowly working through your Online “The Internal Map of Reality Expander” Course and am simultaneously reading “Stop The Excuses” by Dr Wayne Dyer (whose back catalogue of work I’m not previously familiar with), anyway your course and his book are seemingly highly compatible in nature with each other, I hadn’t intended that-just one of those occurrences.

    Without getting into all the best books and freedom of choice Politics –has any Publisher produced a Best Read with Holosync reading Range, or a “The Reading of These Books is Enhanced with Holosync Logo”, it seems strange that a totally natural common interest market is being completely ignored (or perhaps it isn’t and I’m just unaware). You may have a tool that’s sold to over a million people over 20-30 years, yet it seems to me that many of those million folks may be described in less than pleasant terms, given that word of mouth immediately stopped with many of them, has it ever been suggested to you that there are some behaviour patterns that no amount of raising the Threshold can justify? This isn’t an attack on yourself, merely a curiosity in wondering if thats the difference between you being in the top 1% and many other Holosync users not?

    FROM BILL: Sorry, but I have no idea what you just wrote or what you are trying to say.

  199. Trace says :

    Hey bill,
    Here is a first person account of what happens during the economic collapse in Argentina. survivalism.html
    Tells it like it is – rapes,theft, etc. everything you warned about. But he does hold to the positive in it all. Community of like minded people, finding beauty in the simple,etc.
    If someone can post a hyperlink if mine doesn’t work,thanks.
    Thank bill, I would have never known.

  200. FROM BILL: Sorry, but I have no idea what you just wrote or what you are trying to say.

    I am someone who reads acknowledgements and publisher information in books and have never ever seen an acknowledgement for the Holosync product (WHY NOT/HOW CAN THIS BE). Many new agey writer types all seem to quote and reference ACIM which any of us can read for free:
    I believe it’s also published in many languages.

    Your own course references vision, sound, smell, touch, taste

    So I
    vision – reading
    sound – whilst listening to Holosync
    touch – EFT/Chakra tapping (whilst doing the above)
    smell – deep slow meditational breathing whilst doing the above.
    taste – I’ll have to start chewing gum. :)

    Using all these Modalities together IMO speeds up the beneficial Effects of Holosync.

    If I were a author/writer I would mention that I enjoy meditating with Holosync in my acknowledgements and published works, If I worked in a publishing House I might do the same. If you provided an approved Usage statement or Logo people may be inspired to use it, A percentage of the readership might then be curious and say

    “I wonder what Holosync is?”

    Yes there are many many competing meditation, hypnosis, NLP techniques programs and so on (mostly putting superficial new junk on the old baggage), but none that I’ve experienced come close to the genuine Power of Change that’s provided in simply removing/rewiring/re-interpretting/re-parsing the old thought processes and baggage in the way the Holosync Product provides. Yes I know that regular music and speech generates all the Wave formats that we pay you for (drums create theta waves for instance) but the rain and waves splashing on the rocks has a musical quality all of its own.

    FROM BILL: There are few in the personal growth field who have NOT endorsed Holosync, and many have mentioned it in their books.

  201. Richard says :

    Hi Bill.

    I’ve been reading through these posts and also the previous series and find them very informative. Thank you. Could you please for me a little further on the comment below regarding the US and Europe. Could you add a little more explanation around this:

    “Same with the US…the game’s been rigged, and it’s been set up on purpose to go up in flames just around this time…it is a big idea…a… .”

    Thanks, Richard.

    FROM BILL: There are many authoritative newsletters around that you can get. Many are quite expensive, but worth it if you’re really interested in finding out what is going on. John Mauldin’s NL is free, however, and has a lot of great (and in-depth) information. Google him and subscribe. You’ll get more than you can ever digest about the financial markets.

  202. Kevin says :


    It seems everyday your predictions are coming truer and truer. Government is growing and our liberties are coming under attack.

    The more I learn, the scarier it gets.

    I’ve finally accepted that the system is going to collapse hard! And there’s nothing anyone can do about it. On top of collapse, it seems there are people preparing to step in and take over with more control.

    You sell a product that promotes free thinking and give advice about freedom.

    Have you’ve ever been harassed by the feds? If not, do you worry you may in the future? What’s the worst case scenario for Centerpointe in the future in your mind?


    FROM BILL: The worst case scenario? No one has enough money to buy anything and we go out of business. In which case I promise that all Holosync levels bought and paid for will be delivered, if I have to create them myself by candlelight. Then I go stand outside Nordstom and play my saxophone with a hat in front of me.

  203. Erik says :

    Hey Bill,

    I have to say that the first time I heard you talk about witnessing your internal representations and that everything that doesn’t serve you will fall away, I didn’t think I was capable of doing it. It seemed like it was a really complex thing, for some reason.

    But about a month ago I listened to the retreat cds I got with Holosync again and this time I actually decided to do it. Now every time I meditate I watch my mental processes and what feelings they bring up, and I’m pretty sure some things have already fallen away. Also, every time a stronger more emotional thought comes up I just watch it, and my own reaction to it and so forth.

    For example, a few weeks ago I went back to school(to 11th year). I felt stressed only on the very first day, but it never overwhelmed me, even though it was pretty strong. I felt it on the physical level and kept myself mentally detached from it(I couldn’t yet see the thoughts that created that stress though).

    A few months ago I would have said that there’s no way in hell I’m going back to school. I used to have a pretty strong case of social phobia. One of the scariest things for me was the thought of going to a new school – now it feels like a piece of cake.

    My mental and emotional well-being seems to be improving fast. If I take a snapshot of myself 3 years ago(as well as I remember) and look at myself now, all my problems and issues seem to be only a fraction of what they were. It’s pretty amazing.

    A large part of this is thanks to your teachings and Holosync, even though I admit I haven’t been very consistently listening to it through out the last 4 years or so. There have been long periods(of months) when I didn’t listen for one reason or another. The chaos I was in was such that I wasn’t often even capable of that small amount of discipline. I’m definitely not going to stop anymore though.

    In school I decided to focus on learning the hard sciences – physics, chemistry, biology and also geography to some extent. I’ve regained my natural curiosity to such an extent that these things now seem to be really interesting.

    I didn’t give a damn about learning or almost anything else only a short time ago… I feel like I can do almost anything if I only I want it enough and I can’t help but feel optimistic even though hard times are ahead. I hope I keep improving like this even when things get really tough.

    It makes me wonder what I’ll be like and what I’m capable of when I finish the entire program and keep improving myself.

    I’m also wondering, to what extent can you actually master your internal processes and how much control can you actually have over yourself?

    It seems almost unbelievable that something like this is possible, that you hold all the keys to your own happiness, or am I overestimating this? Just how happy can you be in this world, where, as you say, all things fall apart and you don’t always get what you want?

    Hope all is well,


    FROM BILL: Won’t it be interesting to find out what happens? Whatever you do, keep going.

  204. Elizabeth M says :

    To Dave P,
    I read about Holosync in the book The Unmistakeable Touch of Grace by Cheryl Richardson in a chapter on meditation. She used and recommended Holosync and a silent retreat she had been on. This was my 2nd introduction to Centerpointe. The first was the secret, but it took exposure from her book for me to see what it was and take the plunge.

    FROM BILL: You will see an promotional blurb from Cheryl in my book, Thresholds of the Mind.

  205. Joel says :


    With all your knowledge and awareness what do you say to a person wanting to leave a mark on this earth? Is there any importance at all? The more aware I become, the more I am seeing we are all a part of this ongoing thing. Like you say ‘the wave coming up and going down’ SO then I think to myself well what is the point of it all? who cares if I suffer, if I do not, who cares if I achieve my dreams or I do not. It is just life and then death. Who cares if I die tomorrow or live till 100 years old.

    Then there is this thought constantly in the back of my mind. This thought creates such an anxious feeling. I think to myself, if there is not really any point to it all, then the only point I can make is that I must leave the world with something. Some sort of a LEGACY! I play the game every week, almost everyday. I say to my self I must be remembered… otherwise there really is no point.

    How do you feel about this. You are able to do your small bit to help people, to help ease others suffering. But do you want to be remembered? Do you ever think you want to leave your mark, your legacy?


    FROM BILL: Ah, what a beautiful (and important) realization. I’m sure a few people do care what happens to you, just as a few people care what happens to me. How long will you be remembered? How long will I be remembered? Probably not that long. I have grandchildren who are 3 and 4. Perhaps they will remember me for the next 70 or 80 years. After that, pffft!

    What you do to alleviate the suffering of others means a lot, whether it is one person or thousands. We’re here, we don’t know what, and we’re all in this together. Be kind to people. In that sense, life is simple.

  206. Eric says :

    TO DAVID: Holosync takes a lot of patience, perseverance, and energy to get the results of the deeper stages of the program. Most people who want to change, don’t want to change to THAT degree. I don’t see how someone could really justify promoting Holosync unless they have gone deep enough with it to see that it is the real deal.

    TO BILL: What is your opinion of Ron Paul and his candidacy?

    FROM BILL: I agree with a great deal of what he says, but am skeptical about the practicality of his isolationism. He will never be elected president. He’s not arrogant enough.

  207. arturo says :

    Hi Bill,
    A few unrelated questions for you if I may, It would really be nice to hear your view so I hope you’ll find them worth answering and of interest to everybody.

    1. what´s your view on Mike Dillard (the elevation group) and his view on the financial situation and his solution? Do you think it is legitimate and that it accurately summarizes what you’ve been talking about is going on? … (I am assuming, hopefully rightly, that you know about him and the buzz around)… what about Robert Kiyosaki?

    2. what’s your view on scientology & dianetics… and its effectiveness (same assumption as above)

    3. You’ve said that it makes no difference if, when using Holosync, you use a technique like, say, watching your breathing or just put it on and let your mind go. I’ve notice however, that when I use that technique I feel more clarity at the end of the session, (even though at moments, my watching is interrupted by an unavoidable need to think, but once that happens I continue). This focus does make a good difference in my case. Do you think that could be real or just a personal perception/sensation and not worth the effort?

    Thank you.

    FROM BILL: 1) I am not familiar with Michael Dillard. 2) I think Scientology probably has a grain of truth, along with a ton of bullshit. Save your money and your time. 3) You’ll get better at anything you repeatedly practice. Anything. This includes focusing your attention (as on your breath). This is a worthwhile thing to do, IMO. Holosync works–incredibly and powerfully–whether you listen while practicing focusing or not.

  208. Kevin says :

    Hahaha, thanks Bill. I hope worse case scenario never comes!

    “Like my grandfather said, if worse comes to worst we’re screwed.”
    — Steven Wright

    FROM BILL: Yeah, right. Ha ha. I would prepare. Get liquid. Get out of debt. Stop spending so much and save.

  209. Ken says :

    Quote FROM BILL: The worst case scenario? No one has enough money to buy anything and we go out of business. In which case I promise that all Holosync levels bought and paid for will be delivered, if I have to create them myself by candlelight. Then I go stand outside Nordstom and play my saxophone with a hat in front of me.

    Not only do I know this is true, I knew it to be true before you stated it. You would fulfill every paid order for as long as it takes because you strike me as a man of honor.

    It reminds me of a story I heard about the great depression when most debts went unpaid. I read the story of a man, who was a boy at the time, who’s father owned a store. When the depression hit, most of his customers didn’t pay their debts to him and he quickly ran out of money. Although his father could have done the same thing as everyone else and not paid his vendors either, he decided to use most of his life savings to repay all the money he owed, though it meant a much reduced standard of living for his family.

    When the boy asked his father why he did this, he replied that he made a commitment to them and his word is his bond.

    It’s a reminder that even in bad times, amazing good can be found, if you have enough awareness to see it.

    If we’re tested in the coming years, let’s all do our best to add more to the good side of the ledger than the bad side. And also remember to throw a few sheckles in the hat of the old man playing saxophone out by the nordstrom.

    FROM BILL: Yeah, it might be me. And, IMO, it is best to do the right thing, even when it it not in your short-term interest to do so.

  210. Ken says :


    I just proof read my post. Can you change one thing so it makes sense? For the sentence:

    When the depression hit, most of his customers didn’t pay their debts to him and he quickly ran out of money.

    This should read “and the store quickly ran out of money”



  211. selected says :

    FROM BILL: I agree with a great deal of what he says, but am skeptical about the practicality of his isolationism. He will never be elected president. He’s not arrogant enough.

    Presidents aren’t elected, they are SELECTED, Obama for instance has been groomed by Henry Kissinger himself, these guys area all New World Order.

    FROM BILL: Henry Kissinger? You are reading too many conspiracy theory comic books. Give me a break.

  212. I’m sure my comments resonated with some people whilst not resonating with others-we all have the ability to individually ask ourselves “is it true?” and then move forward into deeper levels or ways of realisations of awareness accordingly . I can now establish that my comments can be construed as an over-generalisation but the deeper-feeling remains that given the choice between Bill’s “Jackpot” product and products from Holosync Users lower down the PYRAMID I would have personally preferred the “Jackpot” product, If some users such as ERIC:Have no wish for Deeper Levels THAT is perfectly acceptable and if that rings true for you I wish you well. Yet the CHARGE-ACCUSATION still STANDS against many users. Most of the teaching here is based in the Looking after number one, I raise myself up so I can raise others up philosophy, eradicating or correcting long held thoughts of blame shame anger guilt revenge is as effortless and easy as we can choose to allow ourselves to adopt this thinking, but triggering long lost causes of Habitual thinking and behaviours in order to bring them to the surface and released is ongoing. Bill can say look at me I set a president in raising myself up to these lofty heights and I did it rushing through all these levels of The Holosync Program. Personally I’m paying predominantly for the Overwhelm that Holosync gives, I have zero thoughts on leaving a Legacy or any thought on how I could achieve that, if taking a year or two out of circulation and plenty of overkill with Holosync raises my ambitions and motivations then short term survival selfishness is in my own interest isn’t it? ANYONE CARE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY AND HOW I AM WRONG IN THAT THINKING? The World will keep spinning regardless of the inaction OR presence of Dave S Perkins.

    FROM BILL: You are experiencing upheaval because you aren’t accepting whatever you are becoming aware of about yourself. Why would you want to do more of that?

  213. Nick says :

    You forgot Indonesia. They lose 6.2 million acres of rainforest per year and at this rate, the orangutan will go extinct very soon.

    I guess the timber companies in developed countries are mindful of the forests, but that is nothing compared to the trees cut every year. An area the size of NY state is lost every year. Trees aren’t growing, they are shrinking.

    FROM BILL: Yes, if you get your info from left wing sources, it seems that greedy capitalists are ruining everything. They must be complete idiots to ruin the source of their own income.

    Oops! Maybe they aren’t. Maybe the more free market the economy the BETTER the environment. Could that be? Yes, in fact, it is. Goddamn!

  214. catherine H says :

    Hello Bill. Do you still slip into unconscious thinking at times?
    I’m in uncharted territory at the moment. Flitting from one to the other it seems. Becoming acutely aware of how much of my ‘ordinary’ thinking is unconscious. When it hits me I feel so alive it’s…….beyond words actually.

    FROM BILL: Unconscious thinking is thinking you do without awareness. Do I do that? All the time. However, any time I want to, I can stop.

  215. Ken says :

    Gold’s correction seems to be picking up steam. Will you buy more if it falls enough?

    FROM BILL: I just might. I just watch and respond to what happens as best I can.

  216. Joel says :

    After watching an interview with Christopher Hitchens I have come to another understanding in question. In the interview Christopher knowing he is dying was asked if it was at all calming or satisfying knowing in some way a part of him was still going to be here after he passed away. ie; a number of his published works and books (a legacy). The realization or understanding I came to from this question was: in wanting to leave a legacy here on this earth in some form (great art, music, scientific discovery, etc…..) it must come from denying death! It is as you have said before Bill, a way of trying to escape death (much like believing we go to heaven or reincarnating into a butterfly ) …… If I leave a legacy or something great or special some how my soul will live on. But it is simply not true. When you die, you die, that is it.

    If you think of some of the great jazz musicians you idolize and look up to. They have left something on earth for us to enjoy! Is it not worth aspiring to leave something for future generations?

    FROM BILL: Why not do something to help other humans who are suffering, regardless of what it does for you?

  217. selected says :

    FROM BILL: Henry Kissinger? You are reading too many conspiracy theory comic books. Give me a break.

    conspiracy reality…not theory.

    FROM BILL: Henry Kissinger? Again I say, give me a break. Of all the things in this world to worry about, whether Henry Kissinger is part of some organized conspiracy is without a doubt the biggest waste of time I can think of. I spend much of my time reading the smartest people on earth. None of them would give any credence to this sort of crap. Have a nice time with this stuff. Wrong blog for you, though.

  218. catherine H says :

    There is no separate you. Why would you worry about leaving a legacy?

    I think some people see your ordinariness Bill and bypass reality.

    FROM BILL: There is no SEPARATE you, because everything is interconnected and nothing can exist separate from its environment. But there IS a you. When people say there is no separate you they are almost always thinking that means there is no you. There is. It just isn’t separate. So leaving a legacy is a quite normal impulse.

  219. Erik says :

    Hey Bill,

    In the post you said, “the government is telling us that there is too much CO2, most of which is made by trees!”

    I think I saw you say that you made a mistake, but I really recommend you edit the blog post, because that’s quite a big mistake. Trees do release CO2 sometimes, but they still have to absorb a lot more than they release, otherwise they wouldn’t grow bigger.

    On another note, I’m wondering how much did the book “How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World” influence your current perspective about government and the free market? (I read about half of the book once but didn’t get to finish it. I’m planning on reading it again though.)

    What do you think needs to happen for there to be a true free market in the US and everywhere else in the world? Is the free market with small government really the best system, or could there be some other way, perhaps without any kind of money at all? Or perhaps without any government at all?

    FROM BILL: The CO2 comment was corrected long ago. We will not see a truly free market for a L O N G time. In times of negative social mood things become more authoritarian, not less. And, so far in human history, no economic arrangement has out-performed the free market for creating wealth for society. There never has been, and probably never will be, a truly 100% free market (free of government interference), but to the degree that the market is free, humankind prospers.

  220. Sam says :

    About the trees… As with thoughts, words, experience etc. It’s about quality rather than quantity, aint it? Nature seems to provide quality if left alone and the perfect market would follow these trends; as it stands now perhaps companies make efforts to replace what they take from nature, but the company–not nature–decides what is replaced.

    FROM BILL: Aren’t the people in the company part of nature?

  221. You are experiencing upheaval because you aren’t accepting whatever you are becoming aware of about yourself. Why would you want to do more of that?

    Peking and Beijing are symbolic expressive attempts at the same sounds and just as I may think in my own voice as I read this back you will be thinking in you’re own voice as you read this back therefore no amount of my attempting to impersonate Bill Harris or Brad Pitt or a woman trying to impersonate Angelina Jolie or the Queen of England is ever going to be the many many lists of character influences that we all of us encounter throughout our lifespans:There has to be a deeper mechanism of plausible integration that reassembles all those ideas thoughts influences dreams running in the background in some forever and always fashion. Living the life of Hamlet or Odysseus in some eternal quest of stormy seas tragedy can only be bearable for so long. Yes being in alignment and having a higher threshold and super-fast learning skills helps but when all directions lead to deeper holes: the rot seemingly sets in and you literally become direction-less with a set anchor within a Beowulf swarm of to be or not to bees Scrooge in a Dickensian Christmas Carol.

    Merry Christmas contributors its been well what can I say
    Bill wants a break from all Politics focus tribe family days
    never to never all tree roots uproot
    liberal doses of jest
    The new year beckons so blessings to Tramps
    they could be the one’s who loves guests
    may all your cheer be genuine forgiveness to you who have not
    somewhere in this quantum-verse
    a poly-morph causes three dots…

    FROM BILL: Huh?

  222. catherine H says :

    For anyone feeling like a headless chicken at the moment…..

    ‘In terms of our own death, we’re talking about the impermanence of the separate self created by our brain/mind–our IDEA of who we are. I’ve extensively written about the fact that the separate self is just an idea, and that there are no separate things or events except in the mind. Separate things and events are merely ideas about reality–handy ideas, to be sure, but still, they are just ideas. There is really just one thing-event (for want of a better word): the entire interconnected going on of it all. The mind chops this one thing-event into many, and then assumes that if many things and many events exist in the mind they must also exist “out there.” This is what some call “mistaking the map for the territory.”

    When the brain/mind that creates these ideas comes to an end, so do the ideas–including the idea (and consciousness) of “me.” Certainly the one thing-event, the entire going on of it all, continues, and the atoms that made up what you thought of as “me” continue to be a part of the whole. In fact, during the entire time that you’re being a “me” there is a constant flow of atoms into and out of “you”. You are an ever-changing pattern or “whirlpooling” of matter and energy, with constant input and output. In this way you are connected to, an aspect of, the whole. This is why I say that the universe is one interconnected thing-event.’

  223. Sam says :

    People in the company opperate within mind where they are under the rules of the company whereas nature is more of the no-mind realm. There is a mind of sorts–witnessing perhaps–but it’s not of the sort that takes action. The problems we see of corruption are man-made, and so are the actavists and others who would try to stop it, and these are inneficient because they are all man-made action designed to solve a problem for someone. Witnessing doesn’t involve problems although problems exist. Somehow though witnessing does allow the solve for problems to occur.

  224. Joel says :

    Why seek? Why seek awareness? Why question? Why meditate? We have to play the game anyway!

    I think I used to be happier before I found out what an ignorant fool I am. Now I have this burning desire to learn, to read and study all day… and the funny thing is, the more I learn the more I understand how I really know nothing. We are born not knowing where we came from or where we are going and that is fine is it not? We simply have to play the game! seeking awareness or not!

    FROM BILL: Ignorance is bliss. Unfortunatly, it is also ignorance.

  225. catherine H says :

    Sorry to be pedantic….I can see that leaving a legacy is a normal impulse. Worrying about it is a different matter though. Worrying doesn’t add a minute to your life.

    Love to all xx

  226. catherine H says :

    Dear Bill

    Here’s what I’m trying to say and I realise that I may be wrong………..but, it feels like that because the shit is well and truly hitting the fan you’re being overly protective. A sort of ‘ the poor sods are so caught up in the labarynth of their minds, time’s running out…… I’ll just encourage them to live in the relative world as best they can’ attitude. You used to push more. Don’t ever stop pushing. I know ‘enlightenment’ isn’t the goal but that’s easy for you to understand when you have transcended it. Surely we have to discover that for ourselves? I’m guessing most people on here only know the relative world…..

    You will never know the extent of your legacy and I love playing my part. That is enough for me.

  227. Erik says :

    Bill, you said you corrected the CO2 comment, but how come I’m still seeing it? I’m not trying to annoy you with this, but I think you might have made an error when you were correcting it… or I’m just hallucinating.

    Just click Ctrl F and write “made by trees” and click Next

    If you still don’t see it, I’m going to a psychiatrist and letting myself get checked. :)

    FROM BILL: Someone pointed it out in a post months ago, and in my answer to the post I acknowledged that I slipped up. I did not change it in the original statement.

  228. Huh?

    Three dots … To be continued (thought everyone knew that!)

    Given what you know about transcendence spirituality awareness and general knowledge – what is it amongst these many things that causes the worst mental or physical health.

    You yourself have discovered a technology and applied it in turning your own ie. Bill Harris’ life around – did you ever feel that you had to escape your name Bill Harris or transcend or re-interprete it, meaning that you yourself were cursed in some manner? I know many people seem to change names create new identities after using your technology and I myself I often wonder if there is some way I can turn poor thoughts and feelings into better ones by simply changing names, that to me would seem like running away and simply evolving a better perceived self identity would be my own preferred option – however as I have tried to do that in recent years life has grown worse – all actions I thought off as positive steps led to worse scenerio’s for me, so should I be seeking to follow and take all the negative nasty hateful actions commonplace in today’s society especially as you yourself are saying that were all interconnected and society acts in herds? swim with the flow or drown in opposition?

    FROM BILL: I’m not following much of what you are saying. You have potential control over four things: 1) how you feel, 2) how you behave, 3) which people and situations you attract or become attracted to, and 4) what means you assign to what happens. To have a choice about these four things you need enough awareness to see how you create them, as you do it. This creation happens inside what I call your Internal Map of Reality (your internal cognitive processes–internal representations, beliefs, values, etc). Awareness of how you create these four things makes them into a choice. Everything else is either beyond your control or perhaps to a small extent can be influenced but not controlled (what other people do, for instance).

    Your “poor thoughts” and your actions are self-created. Create them with awareness and they become a choice.

    I am not aware of anyone changing their name as a result of using Holosync.

  229. Jeff says :

    Dear Bill, and anyone else saying that Ron Paul’s foreign policy is isolationist,

    I strongly encourage you to watch the following two videos, please, because this just isn’t true:

    I believe Ron Paul aligns with everything else you and I agree with. Harry Browne, the writer of that wonderful Libertarian book you recommend people read (thank you very much for that), “How I Found Freedom In an Unfree World”, aligns very closely with all of Ron Paul’s positions.

    Yes, only we as individuals are responsible for living freely. However, government has become so corrupt and powerful and dangerous that I think people need to band together to enact serious change. I believe the farther Ron Paul goes in the electoral process, the more likely that is to occur – these issues need to be talked about it in as large a forum as possible.

    I request that you review your reasons for calling him an isolationist, if that is your only concern about him. If you still believe he is, could you explain that to me? I do respect your intelligence, honesty and integrity. I’m still learning, still Holosyncing daily, but there are many things that remain out of my awareness.

    Warm regards,

    FRO< BILL: He calls himself an isolationist. He clearly things we should only have military action if we are attacked on our soil, and should have no military presence outside the US.

  230. bio says :

    FROM BILL: Ignorance is bliss. Unfortunatly, it is also ignorance.

    Ignorance is fatal, pretty simple.

  231. Anna says :

    Dear Bill! With big gratitude in my heart I wish you and the whole staff of Centerpointe VERY VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012!!!!! Anna.

    FROM BILL: And we wish the same for you.

  232. Andy says :

    Well, I just find it amazing Bill that you can be bothered to argue the toss (tho’ I admire it). I spent 10 years in politics trying to ‘do my bit’ (yeah, being worthy) and eventually gave up trying to bring rationality and decisiveness to the so-called ‘democratic’ process (cue Winston Churchill). Sad to say, but I discovered (how naive was I?), that most people are not rational (Wilber et al) or even reasonable, and that it is very time-consuming, energy-sapping and mostly futile dealing with other people’s emotions, projections and self-interest. In the words of the Buddha, “People with opinions just go around bothering each other.” I finally came to the conclusion that the only people who can ‘do’ politics are those with some sort of personality defect (eg whether simple greed, ego needs, neurotic guilt , acting out whatever). What did I do when I gave up politics ? Made music (“I’m gonna live my life, the way I want to” -Jimi Hendrix). What about the social downturn ? I don’t think it applies to me at all. I’m there for those who need me, but otherwise I’m surfing it man. Last word, from Buddha again: “You only lose what you cling to.”

  233. Maria says :

    The problem is not about the lack of trees but about the resources that the trees use when planted for wood. Usually the trees cut are the ones that have hundreds of years and the new trees planted by the timber companies are the ones that consum the most land’s resources (like underground water). For example the land used by eucaliptus trees can’t be use for any more planting afterward.

    FROM BILL: Where do you get this? And who plants eucaliptus for wood?

  234. Vic says :

    Hi Bill, I hope you allow this to be published. I think it would be very beneficial to your readers. It is a college course on the U.S. Constitution and they are offering ot FREE OF CHARGE. Thanks. Vic

  235. John Neilson says :

    What has all this got to do with personal growth? Is this blog now a forum for political bate??

    FROM BILL: It has to do with LIFE and your ability to navigate your way through it.

  236. Samuel says :

    Hi Bill!

    I read your respons on Europe, Sweden and their debt problems, and that the negative social mood may cause a great war to break out. Do you have any specicfic advice for the people living there other than those you gave in “going to hell in a handbasket part 3”? Im asking because I live in Sweden.

    As always, thank you so much for Holosync. I feel commited to go thru the entire program and I am promoting it to everyone I know. It has truly changed my life and I am only at the begining of it (currently using Awakening Level 1) Regards /Samuel

    FROM BILL: I am no expert on Sweden, but I don’t hear much about Sweden bing massively in debt. They are also in a place that is more difficult to invade. You’re probably safer there than places south of you.

    Be informed about what is going on in Europe. Have some gold. Have some cash out of the banking system. Figure out where you would go and how you would get there if you had to leave.

  237. Jimmie says :

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