1. Welcome to Issue #149 (June 17, 2005) of MIND CHATTER
Mind Chatter is published once a month, on or about the 16th of each month.
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2. Please send Mind Chatter to a friend, and please send us your questions, comments, and suggestions.
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3. In This Issue
* MindQuotes (scroll to #5)
* A few recommendations that may benefit you (scroll to item #6)
* Feature Article
Bill Struggles With Letting Whatever Happens Be Okayby Bill Harris, Director (scroll to item #7)
* Glowing Testimonial of the Month (scroll to #8)
* BOOK REVIEW (scroll to #9)
I Need Your Love--Is That True? How to Stop Seeking Love, Approval, and Appreciation and Start Finding Them Instead
by Byron Katie
review by Katie Sparks
* Important Announcements (scroll to #10)
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4. MIND CHATTER contains articles about:
*How you create your life--and how you can stop unconsciously creating experiences and outcomes you do not want, and instead begin to create exactly what you do want
*Personal and spiritual growth in general
*Meditation (high- and low-tech)
*Recovery from emotional trauma
*Pretty much any other subject I get excited about and want to write about. After all, it's my company and my newsletter, and I can do whatever I want with it. So there.
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5. Mind Quotes
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, thatÕs creative.
- Charles Mingus
Better to light one small candle than to curse the darkness.
- Chinese Proverb
Only those who will risk going too far
Can possibly find out how far one can go.
- T.S. Eliot
I've learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends on our dispositions and not on our circumstances.
- Martha Washington
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6. I want to show you how to create the exact life you want--inside and out! Here's how to experience a FREE preview...
I know that many people may have promised that they can teach you how to create the life you want.
I promise you that I really can--and have for thousands of people.
I've also arranged for you to be able to experience a sample of how I do it, FREE.
So, here's a very special opportunity for you...something that can totally turn your life around. And, it could be worth a considerable amount of money to you, as well.
Just for a moment, imagine:
WHAT IF you could be IN CHARGE of what happens to you--including your feelings and emotions and other internal states, as well as your external results?...
Wouldn't that be a lot better than waiting for life to "just happen," where you sometimes get what you want, and sometimes you get what you don't want?
Are you willing to learn exactly HOW you can do this?
For the last year and a half, I've been teaching three 12-lesson online courses called the Life Principles Integration Process, or LPIP, that teach you all of this, and more. I've received thousands of emails and letters from the people in these courses telling me how what they've learned has transformed their lives, even saved their lives. (You can see some of the comments people have made below.)
So more people could afford the LPIP courses, and as an introductory offer, I'm offering them for an incredibly low $249 per course.
And, if you sign up for all three, I'll give you the third course for FREE.
This actually made each course $166 each, about $13.83 per lesson.
If I taught the LPIP material in seminar form, it would probably take at least ten long intense days to teach each course. And with all the personal follow-up I include I'd have to charge several thousand dollars per course for you to attend.
And even at that lofty price, it would be worth it, I promise you.
Not only that, there is an iron-clad money back guarantee on these courses.Take the course and do the homework, and if you don't think this is the most transformational experience you've ever had, I'll immediately refund your entire tuition.
In other words, you have nothing to lose but whatever ways you have been automatically creating what you don't want in life.
I will warn you, though. These LPIP courses are not your typical pablum-filled feel-good seminars where you feel high at the end but realize three weeks later that little if anything really changed.
If you take these three courses, EVERYTHING will change--and, for the better. Your life will be transformed. You will have all the tools you need to be in direct control of your life--your feelings, your internal state, your external results, your behavior.
And, you will gain a huge insight into who you really are, why you're here, and what life is all about.
Plus you'll learn, step-by-step, the exact strategies, internal and external, used by the most successful people in the world to get anything they want. And, I'll show you how to make sure you use them and make them work for you.
And, as I said, if you don't get what you want from these courses, for any reason, you can get a refund. I'm taking all the risk, other than your time investment in actually doing the lessons.
If you're not serious about changing your life, if you aren't willing to do what it takes to operate at the highest level and really be happy, peaceful, and successful ALL THE TIME, this isn't for you.
But if you're serious, if you're sincere, these three courses will utterly and completely change your life.
Here's a huge and very unique benefit you'll get from these LPIP online courses:
In addition to everything else, all LPIP course participants get unlimited email access to me for any questions they have about course content. I answer every one of these emails personally--no staff members are involved--and some of my answers, when necessary, are sometimes three, five, even seven pages long.
I put everything into this course, because I really, sincerely want you to get everything I'm promising.
You though, have a part in the success of these courses--in fact, a big part. I don't wave a magic want over you and change you into a happy, peaceful, successful person in complete control of his or her life.
If just tell you how to do it, and give you an easy way to make the change.
Because I have such a huge personal time investment in answering all your questions, I want to make one thing very clear, though. Please DO NOT take these courses unless you're willing to do your part. I do not have the time to waste on those who aren't sincere and aren't willing to pay the price to create the internal changes they want.
But if you ARE sincere, and you really do want to change your life, I want to show you how to do it, and I will take you, step by step, through everything you need to know.
You CAN create an entirely new life for yourself, regardless of your past or present circumstances.
You can read more about each course and what it includes, and even listen to a free preview lesson, just by clicking below:
http://www.centerpointe.com/life/preview
So please, go listen to the free preview lesson, and if you really are ready to change your life, enroll in this amazing courses risk-free.
I look forward to having you in these courses and showing you that the possibilities for what your life can be really are limitless...regardless of your present or past circumstances.
Just click here to listen to the free preview lesson and to take advantage of the old low price before we're forced to raise it on March 1st:
http://www.centerpointe.com/life/preview
Be well.
Bill
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Spiritual Cinema Circle
What if you could see the best of the spiritually-oriented, uplifting, and heart-filled movies and short-subjects made each year, in the privacy of your own home--personally chosen for you by noted Hollywood film producer Steven Simon from the top movies, shown at top film festivals?
Steven Simon knows movies. Some of his work as a Hollywood producer includes Somewhere in Time starring Jane Seymour and Christopher Reeve, and What Dreams May Come starring Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding.
Steven, though, left Hollywood a couple of years ago to pursue his dream of spreading uplifting, spiritual entertainment--movies that rarely make it to theaters, and often don't even make it to the rental market--yet are uplifting, thought-provoking, heart-opening movies. To bring these movies to people who will really appreciate them, such as you and me, Steven has started The Spiritual Cinema Circle.
Here's what Steven told me: "Before now, hardly anybody got to see the best movies made each year. Now, with The Circle, you can enjoy heartful, soulful movies ... without leaving home."
Here's how the Spiritual Cinema Circle works:
* Each month you receive 3-5 features and shorts on DVD. The movies are personally selected by Steven Simon and his team. These movies represent the best of spiritual cinema and art.
* The movies are new films you're unlikely to see anywhere else.
* The DVDs are yours to keep. You don't have to return them. In fact, you're encouraged to share them with friends and family, in order to broaden the worldwide Spiritual Cinema community.
* The cost of the service is kept deliberately low, so the maximum number of people can participate. If you join now, you become a Charter Member of The CIRCLE. Charter members pay only $24 per month instead of the regular $29 fee (plus $1.95 shipping and handling; outside USA $5.95).
* There's no risk - you may cancel your membership at any time. And remember, you never have to return any of your DVDs, even if you decide to cancel your membership.
I'm sending this email because I've enjoyed these movies so much I just new I had to share this resource with all of you. Go check out their web page for descriptions of the movies you'll see, comments from other members, and other details. I know you'll be inspired to join, and if you don't like it for some reason (which I doubt), you can always un-join at any time.
http://www.spiritualcinemacircle.com/?af=20
Be well.
Bill
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7. Feature Article
Bill Struggles With Letting Whatever Happens Be Okayby Bill Harris
This article is going to be a bit different than my normal article. It will be a bit of an inside peak into Centerpointe during a very difficult time.
The long and short of it is that Centerpointe has been plowing through a major computer disaster since late April. I want to tell you about it, and then reflect on a few of the principles I teach as they may apply to what happened. And, since this disaster has affected many of you, I want you to have the full story of happened.
About a year ago we decided we needed a more robust computer database system to keep all our customer records, to help us take and fill orders, to keep track of our accounting, and so on. We decided to go with an Oracle database system, which is (trust me) very expensive. What is more, is costs several hundred thousands dollars to have it installed...
...and the preparation for installing it took about a year!
To make a long story short, the team we hired to install the creme-de-la-creme Oracle system absolutely blew it. When the switch was pulled (in a way that meant there was "no turning back") everything crashed. For several weeks we couldn't take orders, and once we could again we found that it took (literally) five times as long to enter each order into the system. Before the changeover, we were strained to handle all the orders with our old system, which was very fast, so the fact that now it was taking five times as long was a real problem.
What's more, we couldn't process credit cards (!), we couldn't process payments people owed us, we couldn't send information on what to record into our studio, and the system wouldn't allow us to send out what had been ordered to you and other customers (don't ask me why)--even including deeper program levels that had already been paid for! Once we regained the ability to process credit cards, many people were double billed--sometimes for product that was not getting sent out--which understandably pissed many people off.
I mean, imagine not only not getting what you paid for, but being charged twice for it!
This, of course, generated MANY calls by unhappy people wondering what was going on. We were so busy, however, trying to get the orders that were coming in into the system and fixing the problems (and remember that the orders were taking five times as long to enter into our system--$%&#!) that we temporarily had our answering service take the incoming calls.
Now, bless their hearts, but our answering service isn't even a fraction as good as are actually in-house staff. They not only didn't know many of the details of what was happening (we were still trying to figure it out for ourselves) they often aren't too swift about relaying what we want them to say to customers anyway. Not being able to get through to our staff, some people began to think we were going out of business, or were having financial problems, or...
...something!
Have you ever had a situation were there were ten things going on all at the same time, all of which were emergencies of the highest priority, but you had no way of treating them all as priorities? That's the way it was. If we took our own calls, we couldn't catch up. But by not taking them, half the calls required call-backs, which also took tons of additional time we didn't have.
And nearly every day something new would break, or we would discover a new problem. And the biggest thing was that we couldn't even get into the database to generate a list of the people who had been inconvenienced. I considered murdering the implementation team that had created this mess...
...but my staff restrained me just in time (just kidding, but not by much).
I hired a whole roomful of temporary workers to help enter orders and we found a new group of computer whizzes (who were not from the god-awful group who created the mess) to help clean things up. All of this was/is very expensive. Our regular staff worked countless hours of overtime and temporarily did pitched in to do jobs other than what they usually did. All this was made more difficult by all the complaint calls which took a lot of time away from actually cleaning up the mess.
As you can imagine, I was going nuts over all of this.
First of all, I'm sure this will end up costing me lot of money (I'm talking in the hundreds of thousands of dollars). Though I'd prefer that this not happen, money isn't big issue with me any more (and by the way, I will NOT raise prices to cover any of this--I will personally eat the costs). However, the fact that YOU might be inconvenienced, or the fact that we promised to do something for you (send you a Holosync demo, send you an Awakening Prologue package, send a Holosync deeper level, be there for you when you need support, or anything else) when we couldn't do it (or could only do it really slowly) REALLY bothered me.
In fact, I have to say that I can't remember ever feeling so helpless in my life. After fifteen-plus years of building a well-running system designed to give you the best service and the best product I would possibly deliver, and then to have the whole system go to System Heaven, and at one of the busiest times we've ever had, absolutely made me sick to my stomach.
As many of you know, one of the principles I teach is Let Whatever Happens Be Okay. The idea is that whatever happens, happens. And, whatever happens generates its own set of consequences. When you resist what has happened, you ADD additional consequences to those that are already there--and when you resist, those consequences aren't usually pleasant. I'm not offering Let Whatever Happens Be Okay as a rule, mind you, but rather as a reminder of what happens when you resist "what is". So, here I am, the big-shot personal growth guru, with something going on that I'm quite frankly not doing a very good job of letting be okay! So this has been a humbling experience for me, and a lesson that there are often circumstances beyond our control, where all we really have is the ability (the choice) to let what is happening be okay. And, ultimately, that's what I did.
I took my own advice, the same advice I often give to Centerpointe program participants: I let it be okay that this had happened, as much as I would have preferred that it not happen. I focused on what I want, and I adopted the witness posture by stepping back to observe what was happening (especially inside myself) with curiosity. My employees will tell you that I did a lot of ranting--as they also did, since they bore the brunt of the actual work. (I sometimes rant for a while when I haven't figured out what to do yet.)
Luckily, we have a genius IT person, Jon Monroe, and he now has a good handle on this and has almost all of the problems under control now. Over the next month we will eventually get to the point where this new system will work, and will give us all the extra benefits that caused us to choose it in the first place. These benefits, by the way, are all designed to give you more of what you want without our having to raise our prices.
So here's the bottom line:
I feel terrible about this because you may have been inconvenienced. The fact is that nearly 14,000 customers were caught in this mess. Today, Friday, June 17th, a postcard goes into the mail to each of these people briefly describing what happened and explaining what I plan to do to make it right.
In case you're curious, here's what I plan to do to make it right to you:
I am going to give a free teleseminar about Holosync next month (I mean a REALLY in-depth seminar with information you can really use), followed by a new series I'm putting together called "The World's Greatest Teachers". The details, including how to register for these free seminars, are on the postcard I'm sending.
Since I know most of the top people in the world in personal and spiritual growth, I'm going to get ten or twelve of these "World's Greatest Teachers" on the phone, one at a time, for about an hour, and have an in-depth conversation with them about personal and spiritual growth, success, and LIFE, where they can share their wisdom with you, and we can talk over a lot of important issues. And, I'm going to let all the people who were inconvenience by this mess listen in for FREE (everyone else who wants to participate will probably pay about $250 for the series--which will be well-worth it). This should be one of the greatest teaching series of all time, because the people involved...
...will be some of the greatest minds (and hearts) in personal growth.
So if you were caught in our mess, first of all, please know that I am SO sorry, and I promise that if you don't have what you ordered or were inconvenienced in some other way, we're diligently working on making sure you get everything you're supposed to get.
Second, look for my postcard (and a follow-up email with more information). If you weren't caught in this mess, and therefore don't get the postcard, I'll be notifying everyone else of how they can participate in these teleseminars once I get all the details nailed down.
Once again, I want all of you know how much I care about you, and what a privilege it is to be able to help you in some small way to improve your life. So thank you for being a part of Centerpointe. I appreciate it more than you know.
In the next issue I'm going to share one of the biggest inside "secrets of life" you've ever heard, so be sure to read next month's issue as soon as you get it.
Be well.
Bill Harris, Director
PS: If you found this article helpful, please email Mind Chatter to a friend.
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8. Glowing Testimonials and Letters
Amazing changes have happened to me since I begam participation in your program. Became more confident and am in a learning mode constantly. Always was curious but I take more action now, ie exchanging skills (writing articles in exchange for T.C.M acupuncture treatments) whereas before I had my (native) English reserve. Love the support letters and noting Follow-up Letter #6, could identify with writers.
What has also happened to me since beginning prgram is that without the slightest worry or concern, I was able to find Seniors Housing which I could afford and also I programmed what I wanted - and have it; includes l bedroom apartment, organic gardens where I have been collecting seeds for garden and also digging roots I need to overcome health challenge, namely dandelion, ground ivy and clover roots. All I had set down on paper,after listening to tapes and feeling motivated, has come - ie I am four blocks from the beach - I look at the mountains daily ( snowcapped today), and I am near convenient bus towns to go just about anywhere I wish. I could not ever ask for what I wanted before. I now start each day choosing whichever tape I feel led to use. My health ( avoid xrays when you have dental work if you can) is improving thanx to TCM AND YOUR CDs.
I can walk anywhere and often walk long distances whereas before I was too weak to do this ( I had always been fit until I developed the tumour.) The other thing is I never spent much money on myself and I allowed myself to buy a beautiful chinese rug and my new computer. So you can see that improvements in my life have been generated by your program. Yes, I would enjoy receiving any e-mails of interest which you send out.
-Jan
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The first few days, I experienced some physical chilling during the program. The next few days, I had the kind of psychosomatic stomach pains I had as a child when I wanted to be picked up early from school. They soon ended, although I still experience occasional chilling, or its opposite, something like a hot flash, with sweating and heart pounding. I gained some insights into my relationships with my mother, my deceased father, and my ex-husband and lovers. I hope to continue working on the clingy, self-defeating part of me that sabotages relationships. I have always had a mild case of claustrophobia, and was surprised to find myself on a caving expedition with my sweetheart, with no qualms. I have also noticed a surprising awakening of an entrepreneurial side, which I did not know I had in me.
The day-to-day result of [listening to Holosync] has been a more frequent habit of happiness. Happiness used to be the exception, a handful of days per decade. Now happiness is almost my constant companion. It seems as if I have always had this habit, except that this exercise forces me to recall that it is consistent with my use of these tapes. I used to have a habit of being in a "frazzled" state. Now I am no longer "scattered, smothered, and covered."
Judy
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Bill,
I thought I would take a minute to thank you for your wonderful program. I have been using the Holosynch tapes since last December. It has been quite an eventful year.
I had been writing a book on meditation and spiritual practice for about 10-years, and I could never get it completed to my satisfaction.
After using your tapes, I found my book complete (through the normal hardwork and birthing process of writing of course), found a publisher, and just today, it has been released.
Holosync has had a tremendously positive impact on my life.
As soon as my order arrives in the mail, I will send both of you a copy of my book. I hope you enjoy it.
Best regards,
Mark
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9. Book ReviewI Need Your Love -- Is That True?
How to Stop Seeking Love, Approval, and Appreciation and Start Finding Them Instead
by Byron Katie
review by Katie Sparks
***If you would like to read more about or order this book click here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/140005107X/centerpointer-20/102-5437563-6888954
"Love is wonderful--except when we are searching for it, trying to hold on to it, or missing it."
Three years after the release of her bestselling book,
Loving What Is, Byron Katie returns to take "The Work" into the realm of relationships. In
I Need Your Love -- Is That True? How to Stop Seeking Love, Approval, and Appreciation and Start Finding Them Instead, Katie presents a refined version of The Work that applies to the many ways in which we relate to other people.
Though I loved Katie's first book, I was reluctant to read her new one based superficially on the title, which seemed a bit awkward. Besides, let's face it, this is an area that is difficult for many of us to look at. Who wants to admit to all the things they do to gain love and approval?
But I found the book exceeded the five star reviews on Amazon.com.
I Need Your Love -- Is That True? reveals the dark places our search for love and approval can take us -- and gives us a tool to break free.
Katie's approach is quite different than the one we are commonly shown. "The usual advice offered in self-help books and reinforced by our culture advocates a stressful, all-consuming quest for love and approval," says Katie. "We are advised to learn self-marketing and manipulative skills--how to attract, impress, seduce, and often pretend to be something we aren't. This approach doesn't work. It leaves millions of walking wounded--those who, having failed to find love or appreciation, blame themselves and conclude that they are unworthy of love."
Katie's philosophy is simple, "When you argue with reality, you lose. But only 100% of the time." Her no-nonsense approach cuts through all layers of beliefs, preferences, attachments, and shoulds. It is these expectations and needs we so often project onto those we're in relationship with. Katie shows us that approval seeking takes many forms, sometimes covert, sometimes obvious, and very often socially acceptable.
"I am a lover of what is," Katie says, "not because I'm a spiritual person but because it hurts when I argue with reality. No thinking in the world can change it. What is is. Everything I need is already here now. How do I know I don't need what I think I need? I don't have it. So everything I need is always supplied."
Her peaceful approach to loving what is holds all beliefs up to the truth. "How do you know you don't need to stand up? You're sitting. Life becomes much simpler this way. How do you know when you need to do something? When you do it. To think that you need to do something when you're not doing it is a lie. It puts you in an uncomfortable position, full of shame, guilt, and frustration. Lying in bed, you chide yourself with the thought, 'I need to get up,' and you don't. But the truth is that you don't need to get up. Not until you do.
These ideas aren't new. Many spiritual philosophies teach similar concepts in different ways. However, Katie's isn't a new belief system or rule, but rather a method and tool. Specifically, The Work consists of four questions:
Is is true?
Can you absolutely know that it's true?
How do your react when you believe that thought?
Who would you be without that thought?
Turn the thought around.
I Need Your Love -- Is That True? addresses two basic misconceptions about love: first, that you have to manipulate others to get it, and second, that love is about getting what you want.
Katie recommends that you don't wait for anyone but yourself to provide the things you want or need. "You can take responsibility for your own happiness and give your partner a break. One way you can do that is to continue to investigate your thinking and set yourself free from believing that your life is your partner's fault."
"When you believe the thought that anyone should love you, that's where the pain begins," Katie warns. If given just one prayer, Katie's would be, "God spare me from the desire for love, approval, or appreciation. Amen."
In chapter after chapter Katie breaks apart our stressful thoughts about love and approval to see if they hold up to what's true. In the chapter, "What's Not to Love? Could it Be You?" Katie proves through inquiry that the only obstacle to loving yourself or others is you, despite what your beliefs or emotions may tell you.
However, even thoughts about loving yourself should be questioned. Katie explains, "No one who thinks, 'I should love myself' knows what love is. Love is what we are already. So to think that you should love yourself when you don't is pure delusion. Isn't the turnaround truer? 'I shouldn't love myself.' How do you know that you shouldn't love yourself? You don't! That's it, for now. The truth is no respecter of spiritual concepts. 'I should love myself' -- ugh, on what planet? Love is not a doing. There is nothing you have to do. And when you question the mind, you can see that the only thing that keeps you from being love is a stressful thought."
In such dialogues as, "I Need Him to Understand Me," "My girlfriend doesn't make me happy," "My Husband Doesn't Care About Fixing Our Relationship," and "I'll Lose My Girlfriend if I Tell the Truth," Katie addresses the variety of thoughts and beliefs that take us away from love. Her method of inquiry breaks up thought patterns and the attachment to our various needs and wants. It's these needs and wants that often are projected onto our partners or those with whom we share relationships.
The chapter, "Falling in Love" spells out the flaws in the romantic version of love. "Falling in love is understood completely backward, like so many other important things," Katie says. "There's no mystery to falling in love. We have fallen out of the awareness of love and are ecstatic when we find our way back, misunderstanding how we did it. Remember the little girl doing flips in the corner of the playground? She has the key. Look at her face, lit up with the excitement of perfection. She's overjoyed just to be there with her legs and arms to play with. There's absolutely nothing more that she wants or needs, and she's too absorbed in the moment to realize it. The flip she does is an expression of love itself. When she does the flip again, looking to see if she can win applause, she shifts her focus outward and cuts herself off from love. But love doesn't go anywhere, she just loses her awareness of it. Late in life, people call experiences like this 'falling out fo love' and they think that they're about the other person."
The basic human want for love and approval can pervade nearly everything we do -- who we hang around, what we do for a living, the things we buy, the decisions we make. Nothing is inheritly wrong with having love or approval, but as Katie reveals, seeking them in other people can create a living hell.
Katie asks, "How do you react when you think that you need people's love? Do you become a slave for their approval? Do you live an inauthentic life because you can't bear the thought that they might disapprove of you? Do you try to figure out how they would like you to be, and then try to become that, like a chamelion? In fact, you can never really get their love this way. You try to turn into someone you aren't, and then when they say "I love you," you can't believe it, because they're loving a facade. They're loving someone who doesn't even exist, the person you're pretending to be. It's difficult to seek other people's love. It's deadly. In seeking it, you lose what is genuine. This is the prison we create for ourselves as we try to get the love we already have."
The Work is freedom from this prison. Byron Katie's website is
http://www.thework.org/.
***If you would like to read more about or order this book click here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/140005107X/centerpointer-20/102-5437563-6888954
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10. Announcements
Centerpointe's First-Ever East-coast Retreat!
For the first time, we will hold a retreat in the eastern part of the U.S., at the Bryn Mawr Mountain Conference Center in Honesdale, Pennsylvania! The dates are September 16th through 22nd, 2005.
We promise six months of growth in 5 days, but most people claim they received MORE than six months of growth.
Here are comments from a few retreat participants:
"The greatest benefit I got from the retreat was a tremendous sense of peace from the meditations, that may have released the helpless sense of 'what difference do I make?'
-Heather
"I came away from this retreat with an even deeper closeness to my husband, a greater sense of compassion for my fellow man, more willingness to look someone in the eyes and touch their heart, even if just for a second. Be prepared to look at some real issues in your life and be open to change to get the most out of it."
-Tonye-Marie
"This is a top course in the industry of self-improvement, fulfilling a broad range of expectations. Bill Harris is a genius in meeting the needs of participants who are genuinely committed to shifting their understanding of what it possible for human development."
-John
"This is a marvelous way to interact with gentle, caring, like-minded people and to release your excess baggage."
-Ann
"The greatest benefit I got from the retreat was a release from illusions. I gained the knowledge/insight of what is happening subconsciously, tools to deal with it, and the opportunity to act."
-Sallie
If you would like a huge breakthrough in your life, please come to the next Centerpointe retreat. For more information, please call Katie Sparks at 503-906-6027 or visit
http://www.centerpointe.com/ and click on Òretreats.Ó
