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]]> By: Alemenia Mclean http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-6265 Alemenia Mclean Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:00:07 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-6265 I looked in the mirrow the other day and fell in love with me. for the first time in my life I know what it feels like to love myself, from the rub of my hand on my arm to the lotioning of my body. I really feel comforted by my own hands. This was there all along and I did not see it till I awakened enough to take the wheel of my own life. I feels good not to know, not to want to kno,A feeling there is nothing to get,nothing to be, nothing but moments of pure moments. A puzzel that touches your very soul, and is there even when I am not. Who would of thunk it this country girl with a 6 grade education has always been perfect and oneness with all things I looked in the mirrow the other day and fell in love with me. for the first time in my life I know what it feels like to love myself, from the rub of my hand on my arm to the lotioning of my body. I really feel comforted by my own hands. This was there all along and I did not see it till I awakened enough to take the wheel of my own life. I feels good not to know, not to want to kno,A feeling there is nothing to get,nothing to be, nothing but moments of pure moments. A puzzel that touches your very soul, and is there even when I am not. Who would of thunk it this country girl with a 6 grade education has always been perfect and oneness with all things

]]> By: Alemenia Mclean http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-6264 Alemenia Mclean Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:39:57 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-6264 Hi Bill. This is some great stuff. I am taking you on-line expander course. I can hardly put in to words what I am going through. The Holosync has made this transition so much eisier. I would highly recommend it to everyone. I have been in a constant state of suprise sence the first lesson. Every thing that I need just seems to come to me the minute I say "HOW CAN I". I will give you an example about how i proved to myself that the unconcious mind knows every thing you can do everything you have seen thought everything you are capable of. It was going to be a pretty cold night the weather man said drop below freezing and I had not been able to get someone out to service the heating system. we had already experienced 44 inside the house last winter and I said How can I get this thing going. I walked streight to the unit and as if I had done it a hundred time got it up and running even replaced the filter. Another time I ask myself how can you come to grips with the places that scare you and that very evening I was in the book store and My hand seemed to have a mind of it own it reached for a blue and black book By Pema CHodron "THE PLACES THAT SCARE YOU. A guide to fearlessness in difficult times. I ask why I feel the need to look for the answer outside of myself.(for a mate that want disrespect me,beat me steal from me in more ways than one) I am never perfecect enough. that day I experienced the same feeling and found the book 'THE IDEA OF PREFECTION". by KATE Greenville an amusing and moving story of unlikely love. and so many others that bring me to tears just to think of them. I do not have copy or print capabilities on my computer so I hand write everything from the test to the homework. to the lessons word for word. I think that that also happend because I needed to pay closer attention the words and not get stuck in the details of am I doing it right. I have been so blessed sence the firs day all this started from The Secret there is a clear path to this very e-mail I am now sending. I just wish I could see you face to face and thank you, words pale. You be well Menia Mclean. Hi Bill. This is some great stuff. I am taking you on-line expander course. I can hardly put in to words what I am going through. The Holosync has made this transition so much eisier. I would highly recommend it to everyone. I have been in a constant state of suprise sence the first lesson. Every thing that I need just seems to come to me the minute I say “HOW CAN I”. I will give you an example about how i proved to myself that the unconcious mind knows every thing you can do everything you have seen thought everything you are capable of. It was going to be a pretty cold night the weather man said drop below freezing and I had not been able to get someone out to service the heating system. we had already experienced 44 inside the house last winter and I said How can I get this thing going. I walked streight to the unit and as if I had done it a hundred time got it up and running even replaced the filter. Another time I ask myself how can you come to grips with the places that scare you and that very evening I was in the book store and My hand seemed to have a mind of it own it reached for a blue and black book By Pema CHodron “THE PLACES THAT SCARE YOU. A guide to fearlessness in difficult times. I ask why I feel the need to look for the answer outside of myself.(for a mate that want disrespect me,beat me steal from me in more ways than one) I am never perfecect enough. that day I experienced the same feeling and found the book ‘THE IDEA OF PREFECTION”. by KATE Greenville an amusing and moving story of unlikely love. and so many others that bring me to tears just to think of them. I do not have copy or print capabilities on my computer so I hand write everything from the test to the homework. to the lessons word for word. I think that that also happend because I needed to pay closer attention the words and not get stuck in the details of am I doing it right. I have been so blessed sence the firs day all this started from The Secret there is a clear path to this very e-mail I am now sending. I just wish I could see you face to face and thank you, words pale. You be well Menia Mclean.

]]> By: k fuller http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-6152 k fuller Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:29:18 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-6152 Could you talk about romantic love in the transcendant levels? At the third stage of Tozan, it sounds like there is not much room for jaw-dropping, head-over-heels love. I am head-over-heels in love with my wife of 15 years. So far, holosync, your on-line courses and blog have helped me deal with changes in our relationship that I consider related to reaching mid-life. In fact, I don't know how I would have dealt with my wife's changes in perspective if I had not been letting everything that happens be okay. Can romantic love get deeper upto and including the third level or should I expect to become distant in that way? Thanks FROM BILL: Genpo Roshi sure seems to love his wife, and I love mine. Romantic love is a very human condition, and though people at the third rank often deny the relative side of things (which comes back to bite them in the fourth rank)--which could include a denial of romantic love--I don't think there is anything (other than the delusions of the third rank) that would make romantic love end. In fact, my own experience is that it just gets better. Could you talk about romantic love in the transcendant levels? At the third stage of Tozan, it sounds like there is not much room for jaw-dropping, head-over-heels love.

I am head-over-heels in love with my wife of 15 years. So far, holosync, your on-line courses and blog have helped me deal with changes in our relationship that I consider related to reaching mid-life. In fact, I don’t know how I would have dealt with my wife’s changes in perspective if I had not been letting everything that happens be okay.

Can romantic love get deeper upto and including the third level or should I expect to become distant in that way?

Thanks

FROM BILL: Genpo Roshi sure seems to love his wife, and I love mine. Romantic love is a very human condition, and though people at the third rank often deny the relative side of things (which comes back to bite them in the fourth rank)–which could include a denial of romantic love–I don’t think there is anything (other than the delusions of the third rank) that would make romantic love end. In fact, my own experience is that it just gets better.

]]> By: Vj Montanye http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-5814 Vj Montanye Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:09:44 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-5814 Bill, I would love to have your next writing be on our adaptability to experiences of life, how to get the most positve out of them with Success. Going on three years with you and holosync.. thanks Vj Bill, I would love to have your next writing be on our adaptability to experiences of life, how to get the most positve out of them with Success. Going on three years with you and holosync.. thanks Vj

]]> By: Jordon http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-5777 Jordon Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:22:20 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-5777 Thank you so much bill! This blog post and the next one are the only places online that I have been able to find a clear explanation of the Five Stages of Tozan. There is, however, one section of this post that is unclear to me. You describe the need to let go of western doubt and scepticism, and submit to an 'enlightened teacher'. You later contradict this statement when you say that "You also doubt the teacher, enlightenment, meditation, religion, spiritual growth, personal growth–all of it". I would much appreciate it if you were to explain how these (seemingly) contradictory cocepts of submission and doubt fit together. thanks, Jordon Thanks FROM BILL: I didn't say to let go of doubt--I said to doubt everything. However, part of "everything" is to doubt doubt, too. (Again, though, I didn't say this in the blog post--I said to doubt everything that you think is going to help you, save you, make you happy, get you anywhere, etc. Doubt is the royal road to enlightenment. Thank you so much bill!

This blog post and the next one are the only places online that I have been able to find a clear explanation of the Five Stages of Tozan.
There is, however, one section of this post that is unclear to me.

You describe the need to let go of western doubt and scepticism, and submit to an ‘enlightened teacher’. You later contradict this statement when you say that “You also doubt the teacher, enlightenment, meditation, religion, spiritual growth, personal growth–all of it”.

I would much appreciate it if you were to explain how these (seemingly) contradictory cocepts of submission and doubt fit together.

thanks,
Jordon

Thanks

FROM BILL: I didn’t say to let go of doubt–I said to doubt everything. However, part of “everything” is to doubt doubt, too. (Again, though, I didn’t say this in the blog post–I said to doubt everything that you think is going to help you, save you, make you happy, get you anywhere, etc. Doubt is the royal road to enlightenment.

]]> By: tettd http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-5750 tettd Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:43:03 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-5750 i'm from addis ababa ethiopia i realy want to know all about meditiation even if i can get a chance i would like to have any cources which can vast my knowledge FROM BILL: Go read www.centerpointe.com i’m from addis ababa ethiopia i realy want to know all about meditiation even if i can get a chance i would like to have any cources which can vast my knowledge

FROM BILL: Go read http://www.centerpointe.com

]]> By: sally katzenstein http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-5710 sally katzenstein Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:21:04 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-5710 and now for something (not so) completely different. I've just returned from a "Soul Healing and Enlightenment" retreat with Master and Doctor Zhi Gang Sha. He's recently authored "Soul Wisdom: Practical soul treasures to transform your life". And they are. I ordered the Centerpointe tapes many moons ago and have tried many forms of chanting/meditation and this book presents totally new material: Soul language, soul dance, soul tapping, soul movement and soul song. On Master Sha's website http://www.drsha.com is an introduction to very ancient, until now secret chanting practices of Yin Yang chanting and 5 element chanting. These raise individual and collective frequency and are a joyful and practical way to counteract what is amiss with ourselves and our environments. This is big-time enlightenment- and it's fun!!! and now for something (not so) completely different.
I’ve just returned from a “Soul Healing and Enlightenment” retreat with Master and Doctor Zhi Gang Sha. He’s recently authored “Soul Wisdom: Practical soul treasures to transform your life”. And they are. I ordered the Centerpointe tapes many moons ago and have tried many forms of chanting/meditation and this book presents totally new material: Soul language, soul dance, soul tapping, soul movement and soul song. On Master Sha’s website http://www.drsha.com is an introduction to very ancient, until now secret chanting practices of Yin Yang chanting and 5 element chanting. These raise individual and collective frequency and are a joyful and practical way to counteract what is amiss with ourselves and our environments.
This is big-time enlightenment- and it’s fun!!!

]]> By: Maggie Olsen http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-5636 Maggie Olsen Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:25:58 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-5636 It is delightful to read quotes from other old friends I've met (read and attempted to practice) along "The Way". Many thanks to the tutorial of The Blog. It is delightful to read quotes from other old friends I’ve met (read and attempted to practice) along “The Way”. Many thanks to the tutorial of The Blog.

]]> By: Kevin Hoffman http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/comment-page-4/#comment-5634 Kevin Hoffman Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:03:46 +0000 http://www.centerpointe.com/blog/2008/05/19/the-five-stages-of-enlightenment/#comment-5634 Wow!!! I just stumbled across your website and was so intrigued by what I have read in the first 15 minutes that I have ordered your Holosync program. I am a recovering alcoholic/addict. I have experienced the three stages you have talked about in your blog here, but the experiences have been fleeting. They seem to come and go. I understand it is a perfect world outside of my ears. I have participated in Deepak and Dr. Wayne Dyer's lectures since the early 90's and have been a believer in the laws of attraction for quite some time having watched The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know several times. I have also read every book I could get my hands on along these lines as well as practiced the 12 steps to the best of my abilities. I have been practicing meditation consistently (20 minutes a day) and am very excited by the profound effects it has had on my daily life. It seems everything outside is a direct reflection of what goes on inside the mind. It also appears that my mind seems to be the enemy or the "roadblock" to further development. I have also read Eckharte Tolle's books. I have a very difficult time practicing staying in the moment, but seem to be getting better at it the more I quiet the mind. I am thrilled to have found you and your site. I have been looking for like minded people and it seems I have found them. I am currently writing a book called "Anything But Sober". It is "hope for the hopeless". Help for alcoholic/addicts who can't seem to recover. It took me 18 years of relapsing before finally learning what it took to stay sober and I would like to share my experience with the world to possibly advert some suffering of others having the same problem. Please let me know if there is any other information or sites you might recommend for someone like me and thank you so very much. Please also advise me of any service I can become active in along these lines. Thank You Thank You Thank You Kevin Hoffman Wow!!! I just stumbled across your website and was so intrigued by what I have read in the first 15 minutes that I have ordered your Holosync program. I am a recovering alcoholic/addict. I have experienced the three stages you have talked about in your blog here, but the experiences have been fleeting. They seem to come and go. I understand it is a perfect world outside of my ears. I have participated in Deepak and Dr. Wayne Dyer’s lectures since the early 90’s and have been a believer in the laws of attraction for quite some time having watched The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know several times. I have also read every book I could get my hands on along these lines as well as practiced the 12 steps to the best of my abilities. I have been practicing meditation consistently (20 minutes a day) and am very excited by the profound effects it has had on my daily life. It seems everything outside is a direct reflection of what goes on inside the mind. It also appears that my mind seems to be the enemy or the “roadblock” to further development. I have also read Eckharte Tolle’s books. I have a very difficult time practicing staying in the moment, but seem to be getting better at it the more I quiet the mind. I am thrilled to have found you and your site. I have been looking for like minded people and it seems I have found them. I am currently writing a book called “Anything But Sober”. It is “hope for the hopeless”. Help for alcoholic/addicts who can’t seem to recover. It took me 18 years of relapsing before finally learning what it took to stay sober and I would like to share my experience with the world to possibly advert some suffering of others having the same problem. Please let me know if there is any other information or sites you might recommend for someone like me and thank you so very much. Please also advise me of any service I can become active in along these lines.
Thank You Thank You Thank You
Kevin Hoffman

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