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	<title>Comments on: How you make sense of your world&#8230;more secrets of living, part 3</title>
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	<description>Musings from the mind of Bill Harris. Creator of Holosync, founder &#38; director of Centerpointe Research Institute, and a featured teacher in The Secret, Bill has taught hundreds of thousands of people how to harness The Law of Attraction to make lasting improvements in their lives.</description>
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		<title>By: Alemenia McLean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alemenia McLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill  Just one question.  If we can be informed but not have to be inendated then why all the recommendations like cohen,wilber,james Ray,etc, Why can&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill  Just one question.  If we can be informed but not have to be inendated then why all the recommendations like cohen,wilber,james Ray,etc, Why can&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Warrilow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Warrilow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Anne. You have expressed what I was trying to say - but much more clearly and simply! 

Also, I find Eugene&#039;s reflections on the &quot;body-mind&quot; and &quot;total inner wisdom&quot; aspects very helpful as well - thank you as well.

Namaste
Stephen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Anne. You have expressed what I was trying to say &#8211; but much more clearly and simply! </p>
<p>Also, I find Eugene&#8217;s reflections on the &#8220;body-mind&#8221; and &#8220;total inner wisdom&#8221; aspects very helpful as well &#8211; thank you as well.</p>
<p>Namaste<br />
Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am looking for the Mind Chatter archives... I had started reading all the old ones after I started Holosync, stopped when I got too busy and now, I can&#039;t find them anymore. I know it is not produced anymore, but I never thought that meant they would be removed from the site, are they??

 I really enjoyed Mind Chatter. It was short enough to read with my morning coffee. And it  wasn&#039;t just a one person&#039;s views... I really loved the quotes, and the Coach&#039;s corner, these front line people who assist  us when we run into massive resistance! They may work behind the scene, but some of them do quiet, enormously useful, sensitive work with Holosync participants. You can always tell when someone really hears you and gives you not a canned formula, but suggestions that are just right for you because they are very present and they have done their work.

I am very grateful for these coaches, and I would like to see a new version of the Mind Chatter that includes them and gives them a voice rather than a single guru approach to the blog. Bill is very knowledgeable, but I did Piaget in the &#039;60s and I find this whole development thing limited. We are so much more than levels of development moving in a linear fashion. We are multidimensional beings expanding all the time in all directions. It feels like going backwards or contradictory to me to do Holosync and then get into this left brain, wordy, heady blog??  I want simple...

Yes, we do have the intelligence to understand Bill&#039;s very long blogs, but may be we know also that Truth is elegantly simple, that in the end, we all have to go inside for our Knowing, and remember the larger Whole that we are part of. When I die, i won&#039;t be reviewing whether I know all the levels of development and which one  I am at...I may just simply be at peace having awakened to the joy and allowing of the present moment...

Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am looking for the Mind Chatter archives&#8230; I had started reading all the old ones after I started Holosync, stopped when I got too busy and now, I can&#8217;t find them anymore. I know it is not produced anymore, but I never thought that meant they would be removed from the site, are they??</p>
<p> I really enjoyed Mind Chatter. It was short enough to read with my morning coffee. And it  wasn&#8217;t just a one person&#8217;s views&#8230; I really loved the quotes, and the Coach&#8217;s corner, these front line people who assist  us when we run into massive resistance! They may work behind the scene, but some of them do quiet, enormously useful, sensitive work with Holosync participants. You can always tell when someone really hears you and gives you not a canned formula, but suggestions that are just right for you because they are very present and they have done their work.</p>
<p>I am very grateful for these coaches, and I would like to see a new version of the Mind Chatter that includes them and gives them a voice rather than a single guru approach to the blog. Bill is very knowledgeable, but I did Piaget in the &#8217;60s and I find this whole development thing limited. We are so much more than levels of development moving in a linear fashion. We are multidimensional beings expanding all the time in all directions. It feels like going backwards or contradictory to me to do Holosync and then get into this left brain, wordy, heady blog??  I want simple&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, we do have the intelligence to understand Bill&#8217;s very long blogs, but may be we know also that Truth is elegantly simple, that in the end, we all have to go inside for our Knowing, and remember the larger Whole that we are part of. When I die, i won&#8217;t be reviewing whether I know all the levels of development and which one  I am at&#8230;I may just simply be at peace having awakened to the joy and allowing of the present moment&#8230;</p>
<p>Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stephen ( and Janet, Thomas and a few others above .. )

Yes, I AM enjoying reading this, Bill .. and I would really like for you to expand what you have written beyond the, quite narrow, confines of Piaget. 

I gather Piaget used a very small sample of children in the research ( mainly, his own children and a few others! ). Meaning the children involved were developing within a quite limited range of experiences - familial, cultural to name but two.

I am also noticing a scope for your wording to possibly imply that the term &quot;mind&quot; might be taken to mean solely: &quot;what goes on in the cognitive brain&quot;. From my own personal growth and from hearing the experience of others, I am becoming more attuned to the notion of the &quot;body-mind&quot;. In terms of expanded awareness noticing body responses and using those as more information from which to operate from. This has helped me hugely in my own journey towards self-esteem, self-awareness, confidence, motivation. And as Stephen says above - inspiration - to be inspired by myself as well as being touched by the endeavours and wisdom of others.

I felt a strong need to make these points, Bill, as I read other responses over the three installments. I do realise what a HUGE task this is, as there is so much material out there. I am particularly following the more recent neuro-biology research (Daniel Siegal, Antonio Damasio, Allan Schore, and, !gasp! Candace Pert! and the child work of Stanley Greenspan) which all seem to place a growing emphasis on the body-brain mind system. (And I do realise that I am over-simplifying the variety of approaches of these researchers.) 
One aspect of all their work that strikes me strongly is that they are tracing the connections between how our relationships with other human beings SHAPES us and AFFECTS us at a cellular, indeed at a chemical level. And that our very cells around our body record events (traumas etc.. ) in their own chemical language. All happening beyond the remit of the upper Cognitive layers. And all vitally important as part of our &quot;Total Inner Wisdom System&quot; (I could TradeMark that!!)

Deep meditation ( including Holosync )  I believe is a wonderful way of working (without the work!) at these levels, as also is, deep therapy with a therapist who has the capacity to accompany one to, and through, these realms.

Enough!

Warmest wishes to all. (and excuse my non-American spelling!!)

Eugene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stephen ( and Janet, Thomas and a few others above .. )</p>
<p>Yes, I AM enjoying reading this, Bill .. and I would really like for you to expand what you have written beyond the, quite narrow, confines of Piaget. </p>
<p>I gather Piaget used a very small sample of children in the research ( mainly, his own children and a few others! ). Meaning the children involved were developing within a quite limited range of experiences &#8211; familial, cultural to name but two.</p>
<p>I am also noticing a scope for your wording to possibly imply that the term &#8220;mind&#8221; might be taken to mean solely: &#8220;what goes on in the cognitive brain&#8221;. From my own personal growth and from hearing the experience of others, I am becoming more attuned to the notion of the &#8220;body-mind&#8221;. In terms of expanded awareness noticing body responses and using those as more information from which to operate from. This has helped me hugely in my own journey towards self-esteem, self-awareness, confidence, motivation. And as Stephen says above &#8211; inspiration &#8211; to be inspired by myself as well as being touched by the endeavours and wisdom of others.</p>
<p>I felt a strong need to make these points, Bill, as I read other responses over the three installments. I do realise what a HUGE task this is, as there is so much material out there. I am particularly following the more recent neuro-biology research (Daniel Siegal, Antonio Damasio, Allan Schore, and, !gasp! Candace Pert! and the child work of Stanley Greenspan) which all seem to place a growing emphasis on the body-brain mind system. (And I do realise that I am over-simplifying the variety of approaches of these researchers.)<br />
One aspect of all their work that strikes me strongly is that they are tracing the connections between how our relationships with other human beings SHAPES us and AFFECTS us at a cellular, indeed at a chemical level. And that our very cells around our body record events (traumas etc.. ) in their own chemical language. All happening beyond the remit of the upper Cognitive layers. And all vitally important as part of our &#8220;Total Inner Wisdom System&#8221; (I could TradeMark that!!)</p>
<p>Deep meditation ( including Holosync )  I believe is a wonderful way of working (without the work!) at these levels, as also is, deep therapy with a therapist who has the capacity to accompany one to, and through, these realms.</p>
<p>Enough!</p>
<p>Warmest wishes to all. (and excuse my non-American spelling!!)</p>
<p>Eugene.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Warrilow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Warrilow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is (as always with Bill) so left brain!

Bill - you know as well as I do that being informed about is not the same as knowing it. So whilst I understand your obvious and understandable concern for those stuck on less developed (magical) thinking for god&#039;s sake talk to us about about the spiritual dimension. 

Where is the heart in all of this endless left brain stuff? Yes many of us of are very familiar with Piaget&#039;s work- we&#039;ve go got it - please let&#039;s move in. 

Where is the transcendent dimension Bill? Just for once, please move beyond your left brian reductionism and offer us a glimmer of the spiritual - and especially your own experience of it  - please Bill.

You claim enlightenment experience (which I don&#039;t personally doubt) then please demonstrate it by moving beyond these basic levels you seem so obsessively stuck on and talk to us from your heart - move us - inspire us - reach us with some real spiritual insight and uplift.

And preferably from your direct experience  - based on your life - sharing your spiritual ( rather than intellectual / left brain ) experience and insights.

Thankyou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is (as always with Bill) so left brain!</p>
<p>Bill &#8211; you know as well as I do that being informed about is not the same as knowing it. So whilst I understand your obvious and understandable concern for those stuck on less developed (magical) thinking for god&#8217;s sake talk to us about about the spiritual dimension. </p>
<p>Where is the heart in all of this endless left brain stuff? Yes many of us of are very familiar with Piaget&#8217;s work- we&#8217;ve go got it &#8211; please let&#8217;s move in. </p>
<p>Where is the transcendent dimension Bill? Just for once, please move beyond your left brian reductionism and offer us a glimmer of the spiritual &#8211; and especially your own experience of it  &#8211; please Bill.</p>
<p>You claim enlightenment experience (which I don&#8217;t personally doubt) then please demonstrate it by moving beyond these basic levels you seem so obsessively stuck on and talk to us from your heart &#8211; move us &#8211; inspire us &#8211; reach us with some real spiritual insight and uplift.</p>
<p>And preferably from your direct experience  &#8211; based on your life &#8211; sharing your spiritual ( rather than intellectual / left brain ) experience and insights.</p>
<p>Thankyou.</p>
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		<title>By: Nives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am curious, does Holosyc have a reverse effect on Alzhiemers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am curious, does Holosyc have a reverse effect on Alzhiemers?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy von Duyke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy von Duyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
  Great thoughts but Piaget was actually wrong, even young children can be theoretical in their thinking, it depends on the relationship they establish with the task.  (Vygotsky, Holt)  You might enjoy Harold Oliver&#039;s A Relational Metaphysics.  You are thinking from a cognitive paradigm, but I suspect that you will find a socio-cultural theoretical approach to education much more satisfying and in tune with what you really think.  Primary to this approach is the literary theorist Bakhtin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
  Great thoughts but Piaget was actually wrong, even young children can be theoretical in their thinking, it depends on the relationship they establish with the task.  (Vygotsky, Holt)  You might enjoy Harold Oliver&#8217;s A Relational Metaphysics.  You are thinking from a cognitive paradigm, but I suspect that you will find a socio-cultural theoretical approach to education much more satisfying and in tune with what you really think.  Primary to this approach is the literary theorist Bakhtin.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved these posts on human/adult development. I am a big fan of Ken Wilber and the Integral Institute and utilize their resources in addition to yours to keep moving up the stages. I would love posts to help us all on our develomental journey. Or will it just happen doing Holosync? Thanks for your wonderful program...and all the support you give. Loren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved these posts on human/adult development. I am a big fan of Ken Wilber and the Integral Institute and utilize their resources in addition to yours to keep moving up the stages. I would love posts to help us all on our develomental journey. Or will it just happen doing Holosync? Thanks for your wonderful program&#8230;and all the support you give. Loren</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the subject of cognitive development. I can see why now we are what think and thus create.
I am a busy professional woman, young but planning on my future, etc. and do all the stuff you gotta do to make it and live well in this world. 

While I love to read theoretical and on the edge novel/ new stuff that the rest of the world rather not concern about, I find it hard to stay awake and digest and &#039;Get&#039; the message you want us to know, like cliff notes version. Some of us are more evolved than others mentally, but after 12 hours of work, graduate school and stuffs, I am exhausted and my mind is no better than 12th grader. I guess I&#039;m saying I love to read and read these blogs... but I miss mind-chatter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the subject of cognitive development. I can see why now we are what think and thus create.<br />
I am a busy professional woman, young but planning on my future, etc. and do all the stuff you gotta do to make it and live well in this world. </p>
<p>While I love to read theoretical and on the edge novel/ new stuff that the rest of the world rather not concern about, I find it hard to stay awake and digest and &#8216;Get&#8217; the message you want us to know, like cliff notes version. Some of us are more evolved than others mentally, but after 12 hours of work, graduate school and stuffs, I am exhausted and my mind is no better than 12th grader. I guess I&#8217;m saying I love to read and read these blogs&#8230; but I miss mind-chatter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren: Thank you for giving a detailed example, rooted in your own direct experience, of how magical thinking can manifest in the adult mind. 

But, does occasional magical thinking mean that you are stuck at a &quot;magical level&quot;? I don´t think so. Even yogis might have regressive tendencies... but they are immediately witnessed, and therefore unharmful. I totally honor your commitment to change though!

I ´ve been thinking along these lines: If you can play with magical thinking, you honor the inner child, the manifestation of form, that you once were  - as a conscious and playful regression in the service of I. 

Would I want to become an adult without ANY regressive, magical thinking tendencies at all? Seems a bit...repressive? Or do I somehow reclaim the mystery and the magic at a transpersonel level, without egoic boundaries...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren: Thank you for giving a detailed example, rooted in your own direct experience, of how magical thinking can manifest in the adult mind. </p>
<p>But, does occasional magical thinking mean that you are stuck at a &#8220;magical level&#8221;? I don´t think so. Even yogis might have regressive tendencies&#8230; but they are immediately witnessed, and therefore unharmful. I totally honor your commitment to change though!</p>
<p>I ´ve been thinking along these lines: If you can play with magical thinking, you honor the inner child, the manifestation of form, that you once were  &#8211; as a conscious and playful regression in the service of I. </p>
<p>Would I want to become an adult without ANY regressive, magical thinking tendencies at all? Seems a bit&#8230;repressive? Or do I somehow reclaim the mystery and the magic at a transpersonel level, without egoic boundaries&#8230;?</p>
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