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	<description>Musings from the mind of Bill Harris. Creator of Holosync, founder &#38; director of Centerpointe Research Institute, and a featured teacher in The Secret, Bill has taught hundreds of thousands of people how to harness The Law of Attraction to make lasting improvements in their lives.</description>
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		<title>By: joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Cherie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill, Developmental Psychology is but another &quot;religion&quot; with very limitng parameters no more &quot;scientific&quot; than anything else but based on theories and perceptions that faith carries out.I&#039;ve been there the years I owned a Psychiatric Clinic but I moved on,don&#039;t get so attached to it that you can&#039;t move on.Don&#039;t be so sure that you know so much.You&#039;ve found a comfortable spot that you think you enjoy that bears it&#039;s self out so to speak jn your persception.But even delusion can do that.And others looking for answers and thinking they have met up with the&quot;answer &quot; because you are so &quot;scientific&quot;can easily buy into your perceptions you feel so a sure about. I encourage you to move on Bill in your life.And remember you don&#039;t know everything euen though you have set yourself up as some authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill, Developmental Psychology is but another &#8220;religion&#8221; with very limitng parameters no more &#8220;scientific&#8221; than anything else but based on theories and perceptions that faith carries out.I&#8217;ve been there the years I owned a Psychiatric Clinic but I moved on,don&#8217;t get so attached to it that you can&#8217;t move on.Don&#8217;t be so sure that you know so much.You&#8217;ve found a comfortable spot that you think you enjoy that bears it&#8217;s self out so to speak jn your persception.But even delusion can do that.And others looking for answers and thinking they have met up with the&#8221;answer &#8221; because you are so &#8220;scientific&#8221;can easily buy into your perceptions you feel so a sure about. I encourage you to move on Bill in your life.And remember you don&#8217;t know everything euen though you have set yourself up as some authority.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,

  I learn a lot from your post about stages of development .

I hava a couple of questions?

Is it possible to be at one stage in one area and at another stage in another area?

Is it possible that life cause you to make a regression to a previous stage?

Are different degrees of development within the stages ??

Carlos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>  I learn a lot from your post about stages of development .</p>
<p>I hava a couple of questions?</p>
<p>Is it possible to be at one stage in one area and at another stage in another area?</p>
<p>Is it possible that life cause you to make a regression to a previous stage?</p>
<p>Are different degrees of development within the stages ??</p>
<p>Carlos</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:

Thank you so much for your article/blog about stages of development.  I recently began using Holosync and immediately noticed a change, although it has been quite uncomfortable at times.  I am still learning how to be &quot;the witness&quot;  to all the feelings that are coming up.  I also began the LPIP program to help with this.  Anyway, one of the biggest obstacles in my life is unlearning the unconscious beliefs that are part of my Map of Reality.  Many of these beliefs are a result of being raised in a fundamental christian church that I have since found out is considered to be a cult.  The leader of this church was Hobart E. Freeman and if you google him you will see that he passed away two weeks prior to appearing in court for charges of negligent homicide.  He was indirectly responsible for the deaths of 90+ people (mostly women and innocent children) whom followed his &quot;faith healing&quot; teachings.  My dad is still a fundamental christian that believes in faith healing and has been trying to &quot;save&quot; me and my brothers from enternal damnation our entire lives.  Needless to say, I have been dealing with the brainwashing my brothers and I received as children.  I say brainwashing because being a part of a cult is exactly that, as I am sure you know.  We did not have a choice as children but we do now!  I just want to thank you for clarifying things for me and helping to alleviate some of the fear I have been dealing with my whole life.  I cannot explain it but since I was a child, I could not bring myself to &quot;be saved&quot; and live like my father.  There was a part of me that always knew something was pathological about my Dad&#039;s beliefs and his church.  I will use Holosync and do the LPIP program to work on the unconscious part of me that is still programmed based on his/church beliefs.  I hope my brothers will use Holosync as well.  Thank you so much for dedicating your life to helping people become more aware and live their dreams!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your article/blog about stages of development.  I recently began using Holosync and immediately noticed a change, although it has been quite uncomfortable at times.  I am still learning how to be &#8220;the witness&#8221;  to all the feelings that are coming up.  I also began the LPIP program to help with this.  Anyway, one of the biggest obstacles in my life is unlearning the unconscious beliefs that are part of my Map of Reality.  Many of these beliefs are a result of being raised in a fundamental christian church that I have since found out is considered to be a cult.  The leader of this church was Hobart E. Freeman and if you google him you will see that he passed away two weeks prior to appearing in court for charges of negligent homicide.  He was indirectly responsible for the deaths of 90+ people (mostly women and innocent children) whom followed his &#8220;faith healing&#8221; teachings.  My dad is still a fundamental christian that believes in faith healing and has been trying to &#8220;save&#8221; me and my brothers from enternal damnation our entire lives.  Needless to say, I have been dealing with the brainwashing my brothers and I received as children.  I say brainwashing because being a part of a cult is exactly that, as I am sure you know.  We did not have a choice as children but we do now!  I just want to thank you for clarifying things for me and helping to alleviate some of the fear I have been dealing with my whole life.  I cannot explain it but since I was a child, I could not bring myself to &#8220;be saved&#8221; and live like my father.  There was a part of me that always knew something was pathological about my Dad&#8217;s beliefs and his church.  I will use Holosync and do the LPIP program to work on the unconscious part of me that is still programmed based on his/church beliefs.  I hope my brothers will use Holosync as well.  Thank you so much for dedicating your life to helping people become more aware and live their dreams!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Zwuurfman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Zwuurfman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Regarding the generally accepted &quot;theories&quot; of Quantum Physics, not all in the science community share in the silly notion of the particle-observer rule.

The alternate defintition is powerful and logical, yet is not at all widely accepted:  The particle and the photon do NOT have the same origin. 

Instead, the origins of the two simply are from the exact opposite positions. 

That&#039;s it !

No more nonsense regarding &quot;reaching out to the Universe&quot; &amp; quantum physics connection.  -DZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Regarding the generally accepted &#8220;theories&#8221; of Quantum Physics, not all in the science community share in the silly notion of the particle-observer rule.</p>
<p>The alternate defintition is powerful and logical, yet is not at all widely accepted:  The particle and the photon do NOT have the same origin. </p>
<p>Instead, the origins of the two simply are from the exact opposite positions. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it !</p>
<p>No more nonsense regarding &#8220;reaching out to the Universe&#8221; &amp; quantum physics connection.  -DZ</p>
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		<title>By: Dwyght</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwyght</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
         I am a Holosync user. First I just wanted to say that, with the use of Holosync, I have revealed much of my self to my self during the journey within.
           I have a few questions regarding your developmental levels post. Are these developmental levels you write of a kind of expansion on the principle of witnessing? Are these levels moved through by many &quot;felt shifts&quot; being experienced within a level, that would differ for each person? And lastly... Are people, in general, in the early developmental levels (say, pre-conventional and conventional), in your opinion, more likely to create suffering for themselves, than people in the post-conventional and transcendental levels or, does this depend on the &quot;map of reality&quot;?

Cheers Bill,
                Go the Blog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
         I am a Holosync user. First I just wanted to say that, with the use of Holosync, I have revealed much of my self to my self during the journey within.<br />
           I have a few questions regarding your developmental levels post. Are these developmental levels you write of a kind of expansion on the principle of witnessing? Are these levels moved through by many &#8220;felt shifts&#8221; being experienced within a level, that would differ for each person? And lastly&#8230; Are people, in general, in the early developmental levels (say, pre-conventional and conventional), in your opinion, more likely to create suffering for themselves, than people in the post-conventional and transcendental levels or, does this depend on the &#8220;map of reality&#8221;?</p>
<p>Cheers Bill,<br />
                Go the Blog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty McEvoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty McEvoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, 

I was wondering why most self help teachers do not talk about the importance of meditation. You are about the only one from the Secret who really sresses the fundamental importance of a meditation practice. I find it most bizarre. Ken Wilber actually says meditation speeds up the transformative process. In addition, I would like you to really add more to your reports on this concept of &quot;Integral Transformative Practices&quot; Thank you for everything and I use your CD&#039;s everyday. Take care and I know we will meet someday. Marty McEvoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, </p>
<p>I was wondering why most self help teachers do not talk about the importance of meditation. You are about the only one from the Secret who really sresses the fundamental importance of a meditation practice. I find it most bizarre. Ken Wilber actually says meditation speeds up the transformative process. In addition, I would like you to really add more to your reports on this concept of &#8220;Integral Transformative Practices&#8221; Thank you for everything and I use your CD&#8217;s everyday. Take care and I know we will meet someday. Marty McEvoy</p>
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		<title>By: Lorinda Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorinda Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:

Thanks for not only validating a concept that has been evolving in my own awareness for several years, but also for clearly describing it in a way that makes better sense than the simplistic analogy I&#039;d arrived at which was to equate this personal evolution to a progression of grades in school. I&#039;d explain to others that a first grader couldn&#039;t comprehend what a senior in high school understood and that the high schooler couldn&#039;t condemn the first grader because he/she hadn&#039;t gone through the evolutionary process of becoming a high school student. The problem with my analogy is that it (for lack of a better term) insults the &quot;first grader&quot; and I&#039;ve always felt bad about that. In truth there is no right or wrong and you are where you are because it works for you until you progress to another level. I appreciate the clarity your description provides. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>Thanks for not only validating a concept that has been evolving in my own awareness for several years, but also for clearly describing it in a way that makes better sense than the simplistic analogy I&#8217;d arrived at which was to equate this personal evolution to a progression of grades in school. I&#8217;d explain to others that a first grader couldn&#8217;t comprehend what a senior in high school understood and that the high schooler couldn&#8217;t condemn the first grader because he/she hadn&#8217;t gone through the evolutionary process of becoming a high school student. The problem with my analogy is that it (for lack of a better term) insults the &#8220;first grader&#8221; and I&#8217;ve always felt bad about that. In truth there is no right or wrong and you are where you are because it works for you until you progress to another level. I appreciate the clarity your description provides. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I think the blog is a good idea and I appreciate it that you are expounding on the different developmental levels from where we each create our idea of reality.   
I am familiar with Ken Wilbers work and I am wondering whether you are working with his Institute.  Whether you are, or aren`t does not really matter as you do have the skills of being able to make theories practical and understandable.  I do not see what you are talking about as a theory though, because I have had direct experiences of `shifts` and can see the reality regarding the different levels and the truth behind them.
I do know that when we can become an observer `witness` of an immersion and can stay with it, then the power it may have had over us begins to dissolve.  I have found that observing my immersion at this  `lower` level allows me to go more deeply into it and find the core events and perceptions that have led to the story that I have made up to make sense of the world, and which has kept me immersed in my particular version of reality because I had come to believe that it was true.  The fear and judgement which had kept me where I was no longer had the hold over me that it once had, so the worry that I could be permanently dragged back abated, which I think allowed me to begin to see clearly the unconscious process which I had been gripped by.

Kate in a previous post brought up the idea that sometimes one can be graced with a quantum leap which I agree with, simply because I have experienced it.  There is nothing magical about it - it was as though I was being shown something which was way beyond my level of understanding and the understanding of the world consciousness where we are presently at.  Later I was to realise from reading that there were maybe a few people who had thought about what I was shown.  Because of this I was a shade concerned that a dogma could be built up around the Ken Wilber thinking and theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I think the blog is a good idea and I appreciate it that you are expounding on the different developmental levels from where we each create our idea of reality.<br />
I am familiar with Ken Wilbers work and I am wondering whether you are working with his Institute.  Whether you are, or aren`t does not really matter as you do have the skills of being able to make theories practical and understandable.  I do not see what you are talking about as a theory though, because I have had direct experiences of `shifts` and can see the reality regarding the different levels and the truth behind them.<br />
I do know that when we can become an observer `witness` of an immersion and can stay with it, then the power it may have had over us begins to dissolve.  I have found that observing my immersion at this  `lower` level allows me to go more deeply into it and find the core events and perceptions that have led to the story that I have made up to make sense of the world, and which has kept me immersed in my particular version of reality because I had come to believe that it was true.  The fear and judgement which had kept me where I was no longer had the hold over me that it once had, so the worry that I could be permanently dragged back abated, which I think allowed me to begin to see clearly the unconscious process which I had been gripped by.</p>
<p>Kate in a previous post brought up the idea that sometimes one can be graced with a quantum leap which I agree with, simply because I have experienced it.  There is nothing magical about it &#8211; it was as though I was being shown something which was way beyond my level of understanding and the understanding of the world consciousness where we are presently at.  Later I was to realise from reading that there were maybe a few people who had thought about what I was shown.  Because of this I was a shade concerned that a dogma could be built up around the Ken Wilber thinking and theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful stuff.  Thanks!

In your last blog you posted:

&quot;...a pathological version of postconventional sees all thinking and rationality as bad, and thinks that everything is or should be about feelings–we’ll address this in another post at another time...&quot;

I wonder when you will address this, as I have certainly been guilty of this viewpoint from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful stuff.  Thanks!</p>
<p>In your last blog you posted:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;a pathological version of postconventional sees all thinking and rationality as bad, and thinks that everything is or should be about feelings–we’ll address this in another post at another time&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder when you will address this, as I have certainly been guilty of this viewpoint from time to time.</p>
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