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	<title>Comments on: My thoughts on religion, or, &#8220;Hey, Bill, What do you think of Jesus?&#8221; (plus little bits of other interesting stuff)</title>
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	<description>Musings from the mind of Bill Harris. Creator of Holosync, founder &#38; director of Centerpointe Research Institute, and a featured teacher in The Secret, Bill has taught hundreds of thousands of people how to harness The Law of Attraction to make lasting improvements in their lives.</description>
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		<title>By: Xenitron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenitron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the distinction into preconventional, conventional and postconventional perspective on faith is inconsistent and self-defeating because at any level one must hold on to *some* truth, which would on Bills account make one dogmatic. Why is it more dogmatic to believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father, (which he himself claimed) than to believe that he is only an good example? Does not Bill in his very description claim that his perspective is the correct one ?(why bother to write otherwise?) Does that make him dogmatic? So why is an exclusive view of religion (that only one is true) dogmatic that claiming that everyone is false but has some truth in it? Bills view seems to be fraught with contradictions. One cannot have both that God is impersonal and personal and non-existent at the same time. Religions that are contradictory to each other cannot be true.

FROM BILL: For you to get the distinction, you&#039;d have to understand what it means to be dogmatic. Dogmatism is believing something because a powerful leader or authority figure told you that it&#039;s true. I&#039;m suggesting that you find out for yourself what&#039;s true through your own personal investigation--in this case, meditation or other spiritual practice. What I write about is (hopefully) designed to get people to do their own investigation into who they are, what it&#039;s all about, what is true. I have said over and over: &quot;Don&#039;t believe me. Find out for yourself.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the distinction into preconventional, conventional and postconventional perspective on faith is inconsistent and self-defeating because at any level one must hold on to *some* truth, which would on Bills account make one dogmatic. Why is it more dogmatic to believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father, (which he himself claimed) than to believe that he is only an good example? Does not Bill in his very description claim that his perspective is the correct one ?(why bother to write otherwise?) Does that make him dogmatic? So why is an exclusive view of religion (that only one is true) dogmatic that claiming that everyone is false but has some truth in it? Bills view seems to be fraught with contradictions. One cannot have both that God is impersonal and personal and non-existent at the same time. Religions that are contradictory to each other cannot be true.</p>
<p>FROM BILL: For you to get the distinction, you&#8217;d have to understand what it means to be dogmatic. Dogmatism is believing something because a powerful leader or authority figure told you that it&#8217;s true. I&#8217;m suggesting that you find out for yourself what&#8217;s true through your own personal investigation&#8211;in this case, meditation or other spiritual practice. What I write about is (hopefully) designed to get people to do their own investigation into who they are, what it&#8217;s all about, what is true. I have said over and over: &#8220;Don&#8217;t believe me. Find out for yourself.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man Bill, that was awesome.

For some reason, every time I read a blog I feel smarter... But seriously, every time I have a discussion that turns into an argument from a mis-communication issue. It&#039;s like what you said is what I want to tell them.


But how to say &quot;NO!!! no, no, seriously I ment _______, not what you heard&quot;.

How do you fill in the blank with that blog!? lol...

Awesome though, really inspiring when your feeling lazy.  Also a good new perspective on the subject of even being lazy in the first place for any task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man Bill, that was awesome.</p>
<p>For some reason, every time I read a blog I feel smarter&#8230; But seriously, every time I have a discussion that turns into an argument from a mis-communication issue. It&#8217;s like what you said is what I want to tell them.</p>
<p>But how to say &#8220;NO!!! no, no, seriously I ment _______, not what you heard&#8221;.</p>
<p>How do you fill in the blank with that blog!? lol&#8230;</p>
<p>Awesome though, really inspiring when your feeling lazy.  Also a good new perspective on the subject of even being lazy in the first place for any task.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill,

What a wonderful post.

I know that this is an old blog post, but I only began listening to you and reading your blog a short while ago.

You did not mention anything about the Baha&#039;i religion in your post, and yet you seem to be, in many ways, a model of the Baha&#039;i teachings.

In case you are not already familiar with the Baha&#039;i faith, I encourage you to look into it. www.bahai.org. 

You seem to be very much on a path to higher wisdom and enlightened understanding, and if this is the case, then I believe it is important that you  and anyone else on a similar journey are at least aware of this religion. 

Based on what little I know of you at the moment, I have compiled some of its core teachings in an order that I think might interest you, along with some excerpts from its founders:

-The fundamental unity of all religions

These sanctified Mirrors ... are one and all the Exponents on earth of Him Who is the central Orb of the universe, its Essence and ultimate Purpose. From Him proceed their knowledge and power; from Him is derived their sovereignty. The beauty of their countenance is but a reflection of His image, and their revelation a sign of His deathless glory.... ~ Baha&#039;u&#039;llah

-The essential harmony of science and religion

Religion and science are the two wings upon which man&#039;s intelligence can soar into the heights, with which the human soul can progress. It is not possible to fly with one wing alone! Should a man try to fly with the wing of religion alone he would quickly fall into the quagmire of superstition, whilst on the other hand, with the wing of science alone he would also make no progress, but fall into the despairing slough of materialism. ~ `Abdu&#039;l-Baha

-The importance of independent investigation of the truth

know ye that God has created in man the power of reason, whereby man is enabled to investigate reality. God has not intended man to imitate blindly his fathers and ancestors. He has endowed him with mind, or the faculty of reasoning, by the exercise of which he is to investigate and discover the truth, and that which he finds real and true he must accept. ~ `Abdu&#039;l-Baha

-The equality of the races

He who is the image and likeness of God, who is the manifestation of the bestowals of God, is acceptable at the threshold of God -- whether his color be white, black or brown; it matters not. Man is not man simply because of bodily attributes. The standard of divine measure and judgment is his intelligence and spirit.... ~ `Abdu&#039;l-Baha

-The equality of the genders

In reality, God has created all mankind, and in the estimation of God there is no distinction as to male and female. The one whose heart is pure is acceptable in His sight, be that one man or woman. God does not inquire, “Art thou woman or art thou man?” He judges human actions. If these are acceptable in the threshold of the Glorious One, man and woman will be equally recognized and rewarded. ~ `Abdu&#039;l-Baha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill,</p>
<p>What a wonderful post.</p>
<p>I know that this is an old blog post, but I only began listening to you and reading your blog a short while ago.</p>
<p>You did not mention anything about the Baha&#8217;i religion in your post, and yet you seem to be, in many ways, a model of the Baha&#8217;i teachings.</p>
<p>In case you are not already familiar with the Baha&#8217;i faith, I encourage you to look into it. <a href="http://www.bahai.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.bahai.org</a>. </p>
<p>You seem to be very much on a path to higher wisdom and enlightened understanding, and if this is the case, then I believe it is important that you  and anyone else on a similar journey are at least aware of this religion. </p>
<p>Based on what little I know of you at the moment, I have compiled some of its core teachings in an order that I think might interest you, along with some excerpts from its founders:</p>
<p>-The fundamental unity of all religions</p>
<p>These sanctified Mirrors &#8230; are one and all the Exponents on earth of Him Who is the central Orb of the universe, its Essence and ultimate Purpose. From Him proceed their knowledge and power; from Him is derived their sovereignty. The beauty of their countenance is but a reflection of His image, and their revelation a sign of His deathless glory&#8230;. ~ Baha&#8217;u'llah</p>
<p>-The essential harmony of science and religion</p>
<p>Religion and science are the two wings upon which man&#8217;s intelligence can soar into the heights, with which the human soul can progress. It is not possible to fly with one wing alone! Should a man try to fly with the wing of religion alone he would quickly fall into the quagmire of superstition, whilst on the other hand, with the wing of science alone he would also make no progress, but fall into the despairing slough of materialism. ~ `Abdu&#8217;l-Baha</p>
<p>-The importance of independent investigation of the truth</p>
<p>know ye that God has created in man the power of reason, whereby man is enabled to investigate reality. God has not intended man to imitate blindly his fathers and ancestors. He has endowed him with mind, or the faculty of reasoning, by the exercise of which he is to investigate and discover the truth, and that which he finds real and true he must accept. ~ `Abdu&#8217;l-Baha</p>
<p>-The equality of the races</p>
<p>He who is the image and likeness of God, who is the manifestation of the bestowals of God, is acceptable at the threshold of God &#8212; whether his color be white, black or brown; it matters not. Man is not man simply because of bodily attributes. The standard of divine measure and judgment is his intelligence and spirit&#8230;. ~ `Abdu&#8217;l-Baha</p>
<p>-The equality of the genders</p>
<p>In reality, God has created all mankind, and in the estimation of God there is no distinction as to male and female. The one whose heart is pure is acceptable in His sight, be that one man or woman. God does not inquire, “Art thou woman or art thou man?” He judges human actions. If these are acceptable in the threshold of the Glorious One, man and woman will be equally recognized and rewarded. ~ `Abdu&#8217;l-Baha</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Liddell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Liddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:

I was very impressed with your article about religion. You are the first American I have ever heard make any sense of this topic. I must admit that religious dogma in the US scares me sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>I was very impressed with your article about religion. You are the first American I have ever heard make any sense of this topic. I must admit that religious dogma in the US scares me sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Debby Eppard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debby Eppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may not be understanding this blog like it was meant to be but I didn&#039;t think that Holysync was involved in religion.  So how does using it help with religion?
My thoughts on religion do differ from many on this comment board.   There is A God who does care for people.  One has to only look at the beautiful earth and a beautiful sunset to know there is a Creator of this world. 
From alot of what I&#039;ve heard you talk about you believe alot about science and am I mistaken to understand that you may believe in evolution from animal to man?
Your course and the way you interpret the mind is understandable and I believe it will help me as I continue. But your views on other things like you said, are just your beliefs or views.
I have to say I am thankful for the beliefs that I do have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may not be understanding this blog like it was meant to be but I didn&#8217;t think that Holysync was involved in religion.  So how does using it help with religion?<br />
My thoughts on religion do differ from many on this comment board.   There is A God who does care for people.  One has to only look at the beautiful earth and a beautiful sunset to know there is a Creator of this world.<br />
From alot of what I&#8217;ve heard you talk about you believe alot about science and am I mistaken to understand that you may believe in evolution from animal to man?<br />
Your course and the way you interpret the mind is understandable and I believe it will help me as I continue. But your views on other things like you said, are just your beliefs or views.<br />
I have to say I am thankful for the beliefs that I do have.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Frincke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Frincke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read the Buddha&#039;s last words were: &quot;Go and work out your own salvation, with diligence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the Buddha&#8217;s last words were: &#8220;Go and work out your own salvation, with diligence.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments on religion. I don&#039;t intend to hop onto a soapbox, but I feel that one point is being missed generally. Just as our physical selves are subject to physical laws (gravity, etc), isn&#039;t it logical that our spirits are also subject to spiritual laws? While gravity can be overcome by higher laws (flight, space travel), the law is still true. Flying in a plane doesn&#039;t make the law of gravity false. Spiritual laws are still true, regardless of our spirituality. Certain acts or thoughts produce destructive results. Murder &#039;darkens&#039; one&#039;s spirit. Service to others enlightens it. Most would agree that violation of law eventually results in bad results. So while we seek to know ourselves better through religion, meditation, or any other means, I feel that it&#039;s critical to understand that there are consequences to ALL our choices, thoughts and actions, and thus real results from the lives we lead, regardless of how &#039;enlightened&#039; we may be. In the end, no person in mortality can reach a point of being more enlightened than the Creator. Until we reach that point how can we say that truth, or law, is relative. The best we can do is strive to discover truth, live that truth, and continue our search for more truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments on religion. I don&#8217;t intend to hop onto a soapbox, but I feel that one point is being missed generally. Just as our physical selves are subject to physical laws (gravity, etc), isn&#8217;t it logical that our spirits are also subject to spiritual laws? While gravity can be overcome by higher laws (flight, space travel), the law is still true. Flying in a plane doesn&#8217;t make the law of gravity false. Spiritual laws are still true, regardless of our spirituality. Certain acts or thoughts produce destructive results. Murder &#8216;darkens&#8217; one&#8217;s spirit. Service to others enlightens it. Most would agree that violation of law eventually results in bad results. So while we seek to know ourselves better through religion, meditation, or any other means, I feel that it&#8217;s critical to understand that there are consequences to ALL our choices, thoughts and actions, and thus real results from the lives we lead, regardless of how &#8216;enlightened&#8217; we may be. In the end, no person in mortality can reach a point of being more enlightened than the Creator. Until we reach that point how can we say that truth, or law, is relative. The best we can do is strive to discover truth, live that truth, and continue our search for more truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathie Putman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathie Putman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill, Very well put. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill, Very well put. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: John R. McLellan, CHt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R. McLellan, CHt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The warning of not discussing religion/politics came about during the time when the state and church were one.  If you were in the Pig &amp; Whistle on a night and were complaning about this or that you would be found drawn and quartered hanging from a tree not to far away.

Ask your self what you would do if the next time you were sitting a round having an ale and someone started talking religion/politcs you would not be long getting away from them.
This belief was reinforced during the Spanish Inquisition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The warning of not discussing religion/politics came about during the time when the state and church were one.  If you were in the Pig &amp; Whistle on a night and were complaning about this or that you would be found drawn and quartered hanging from a tree not to far away.</p>
<p>Ask your self what you would do if the next time you were sitting a round having an ale and someone started talking religion/politcs you would not be long getting away from them.<br />
This belief was reinforced during the Spanish Inquisition.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Erica&lt;/strong&gt;

I just came across your blog and wanted to drop you a note telling you how impressed I was with the information you have posted here. I also have websites &amp; blogs  so I know what I am talking about when I say your site is top-notch! Keep up the great w...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Erica</strong></p>
<p>I just came across your blog and wanted to drop you a note telling you how impressed I was with the information you have posted here. I also have websites &amp; blogs  so I know what I am talking about when I say your site is top-notch! Keep up the great w&#8230;</p>
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